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So... we just returned from a week on the Carnival Mardi Gras out of Port Canaveral. I thought I'd add on to some of the great discussion that @ray3127 got going with comparisons to Royal Caribbean. Basically, I think that we, also, have decided that we are pretty much done with the 3 major mass market cruise lines (with a catch...)
Before I get into the specifics, I should note a very big disclaimer that this was a Spring Break week sailing, and due to that, there are always larger parties of school aged kids, regardless of the cruise line.
So, how did we like the Mardi Gras??? In short, we had a pretty good time. The room was very nice (with a huge balcony), the included food was good to very good and everyone in our group had fun. However, we all kind of had the same opinion, which was, we will probably steer clear of the mainline mass-market lines (CCL, RCCL, and NCL).
Now, before you go on defending this, let me just state that this is just our opinion and is very much based on where we are in life right now. If we had school aged kids, we'd be more than happy to cruise some of these lines (probably on Carnival again, actually).
However, we are in a different point in our lives than we were 10 years ago. Our DD will graduate college next year, so we no longer have small kids. That being the case, we are finding over the last few years that what we look for in a cruise is very different now than it was a few years ago and our preferences have changed. That said, let's talk specifically about Mardi Gras before we get into our personal opinions...
The Good
Size and layout of the Ship
There is certainly a lot to like about the new Carnival ships. First, these are really big ships. At 180.000+ GT, they are not much off of the Oasis class ships from RCCL. Because of this, there is a ton of area to spread people out (you could say the same about the Oasis class ships). On embarkation day, we thought it was going to be a nightmare, however, once people got settled into their rooms, nothing on the ship really felt crowded, which surprised us a bit. Also, there is room on the ship for two main theater areas, the Mardi Gras theater as well as Grand Central, where there were shows all week. One show, Voodoo Moon, we thought was very good. We also enjoyed the Family Feud game shows. I liked the layout of the ship as decks 6/7/8 all serve as sort of central corridors to get from one side of the ship to the other (although much of Deck 7 is the casino, which I will get to in a moment). Other than a weird placement of Guest Services, the ship flowed very well once you got used to it.
Included Food
This is the area where I think Carnival shines, especially in comparison to Royal Caribbean. IMHO, the included food is so much better on Mardi Gras than it was on say Oasis OTS or Independence OTS. Probably the worst part is the buffet, which does sort of suffer in comparison, but there are so many other included options that you hardly noticed it. First off, Guy's Burger's was exceptional on this sailing. I very much appreciate that Carnival includes it in your fare whereas Royal wants to charge you $16 pp for the inferior Johnny Rockets. My favorite ended up being the Double Ringer with fries. Another great area was Blue Iguana Cantina, which is more or less a better version of Loco Fresh on RCCL (though I will say that I think Donald's Cantina on the Wish is better). There was Shaq's Big Chicken which was great as well. Other included eats were the "Street Eats" area on the pool deck (great philly tots, btw), the salad bar setup in the adult area, the sandwich/deli place on Deck 8, the Pizza place (better than Sorrento's or Pinocchio's, but a notch below Princess) next to it, or the food down at Java Blue Cafe. For dinner, in addition to the MDR (which is what it is), there is also Guy's Pig and Anchor (which was delicious - better than the lunch - and you could eat there every night), Cucina del Capitano (which was slightly above average) and Chibang (which we all really liked) which these two are complimentary for one visit. For our one splurge, we ordered food at Emeril's, which is pretty reasonable, IMHO. A bowl of Red Beans and Rice was $3 and my Shrimp Scampi was $6. Both very good.
In short, you do not have to spend an extra dime on Carnival to eat very well. This is where Carnival shines, especially in comparison to Royal, who seems to want to upcharge you for anything except the MDR, Pizza, or buffet.
The ship's theming
So, I'm not really one to get into theming too much on a ship, but Mardi Gras really has some beautiful areas, especially the "French Quarter" area that includes the Brass Magnolia and Fortune Teller bars. It was a really beautiful area.
The bad
So, the issue with mass market ships, especially during spring break, is that you get all sorts on the ship. I think that especially with lines like Carnival and Royal, you also get a lot of first time cruisers. So, you get the kids that hit all the elevator buttons, etc. That kind of thing. One thing I will give big props to Carnival on is they had tons of visible security out and sent letters to every cabin outlining expected behavior, so I think that they are taking their "reputation" seriously and trying to deal with it.
The itinerary for the ship was meh. We went to Nassau (meh), Amber Cove (Great tour with a local company, but don't need to visit again), and Grand Turk (that, we did enjoy). I think that this is a bit endemic of these larger ships. There are only so many places where they can dock.
As much as I appreciated the food above, the MDR was, with the exception of Lobster night, not the greatest. We did the "Sea Day Brunch" and the food came out cold. Some of the things, like some beef medallions that I ordered were quite honestly inedible. As stated before, Lobster night was pretty good, I have to admit. But, to sum up, you don't really need to go to the MDR on Mardi Gras because there are so many options, so I'd just stay out of there except for Lobster...
Lastly, let me touch on the Casino. This was by far the largest cruise ship casino that I've ever seen. It took up half of deck 7 on a very large ship. Also, the place was ALWAYS packed. I mean, Carnival cruisers I think really must love gambling. I've never seen a casino so continually full. It was crazy. One nice thing was that they had separate smoking/non-smoking areas, but man, I couldn't believe how many people were always there. It was crazy!
The takeaway
We did enjoy our week on Mardi Gras. That said, we are probably done for awhile. We realized on this trip, as mentioned before, that as we age, the roller coasters/waterparks/ropes courses/etc, just don't add anything to our vacation. We just want a solid experience with good food. I think that we are probably Virgin Voyages/DCL people that when we want to try a mainstream line will be better off on something like Princess, that delivers a solid experience, though calmer. However, if we did do another mainline ship, we'd probably do Carnival again...
Before I get into the specifics, I should note a very big disclaimer that this was a Spring Break week sailing, and due to that, there are always larger parties of school aged kids, regardless of the cruise line.
So, how did we like the Mardi Gras??? In short, we had a pretty good time. The room was very nice (with a huge balcony), the included food was good to very good and everyone in our group had fun. However, we all kind of had the same opinion, which was, we will probably steer clear of the mainline mass-market lines (CCL, RCCL, and NCL).
Now, before you go on defending this, let me just state that this is just our opinion and is very much based on where we are in life right now. If we had school aged kids, we'd be more than happy to cruise some of these lines (probably on Carnival again, actually).
However, we are in a different point in our lives than we were 10 years ago. Our DD will graduate college next year, so we no longer have small kids. That being the case, we are finding over the last few years that what we look for in a cruise is very different now than it was a few years ago and our preferences have changed. That said, let's talk specifically about Mardi Gras before we get into our personal opinions...
The Good
Size and layout of the Ship
There is certainly a lot to like about the new Carnival ships. First, these are really big ships. At 180.000+ GT, they are not much off of the Oasis class ships from RCCL. Because of this, there is a ton of area to spread people out (you could say the same about the Oasis class ships). On embarkation day, we thought it was going to be a nightmare, however, once people got settled into their rooms, nothing on the ship really felt crowded, which surprised us a bit. Also, there is room on the ship for two main theater areas, the Mardi Gras theater as well as Grand Central, where there were shows all week. One show, Voodoo Moon, we thought was very good. We also enjoyed the Family Feud game shows. I liked the layout of the ship as decks 6/7/8 all serve as sort of central corridors to get from one side of the ship to the other (although much of Deck 7 is the casino, which I will get to in a moment). Other than a weird placement of Guest Services, the ship flowed very well once you got used to it.
Included Food
This is the area where I think Carnival shines, especially in comparison to Royal Caribbean. IMHO, the included food is so much better on Mardi Gras than it was on say Oasis OTS or Independence OTS. Probably the worst part is the buffet, which does sort of suffer in comparison, but there are so many other included options that you hardly noticed it. First off, Guy's Burger's was exceptional on this sailing. I very much appreciate that Carnival includes it in your fare whereas Royal wants to charge you $16 pp for the inferior Johnny Rockets. My favorite ended up being the Double Ringer with fries. Another great area was Blue Iguana Cantina, which is more or less a better version of Loco Fresh on RCCL (though I will say that I think Donald's Cantina on the Wish is better). There was Shaq's Big Chicken which was great as well. Other included eats were the "Street Eats" area on the pool deck (great philly tots, btw), the salad bar setup in the adult area, the sandwich/deli place on Deck 8, the Pizza place (better than Sorrento's or Pinocchio's, but a notch below Princess) next to it, or the food down at Java Blue Cafe. For dinner, in addition to the MDR (which is what it is), there is also Guy's Pig and Anchor (which was delicious - better than the lunch - and you could eat there every night), Cucina del Capitano (which was slightly above average) and Chibang (which we all really liked) which these two are complimentary for one visit. For our one splurge, we ordered food at Emeril's, which is pretty reasonable, IMHO. A bowl of Red Beans and Rice was $3 and my Shrimp Scampi was $6. Both very good.
In short, you do not have to spend an extra dime on Carnival to eat very well. This is where Carnival shines, especially in comparison to Royal, who seems to want to upcharge you for anything except the MDR, Pizza, or buffet.
The ship's theming
So, I'm not really one to get into theming too much on a ship, but Mardi Gras really has some beautiful areas, especially the "French Quarter" area that includes the Brass Magnolia and Fortune Teller bars. It was a really beautiful area.
The bad
So, the issue with mass market ships, especially during spring break, is that you get all sorts on the ship. I think that especially with lines like Carnival and Royal, you also get a lot of first time cruisers. So, you get the kids that hit all the elevator buttons, etc. That kind of thing. One thing I will give big props to Carnival on is they had tons of visible security out and sent letters to every cabin outlining expected behavior, so I think that they are taking their "reputation" seriously and trying to deal with it.
The itinerary for the ship was meh. We went to Nassau (meh), Amber Cove (Great tour with a local company, but don't need to visit again), and Grand Turk (that, we did enjoy). I think that this is a bit endemic of these larger ships. There are only so many places where they can dock.
As much as I appreciated the food above, the MDR was, with the exception of Lobster night, not the greatest. We did the "Sea Day Brunch" and the food came out cold. Some of the things, like some beef medallions that I ordered were quite honestly inedible. As stated before, Lobster night was pretty good, I have to admit. But, to sum up, you don't really need to go to the MDR on Mardi Gras because there are so many options, so I'd just stay out of there except for Lobster...
Lastly, let me touch on the Casino. This was by far the largest cruise ship casino that I've ever seen. It took up half of deck 7 on a very large ship. Also, the place was ALWAYS packed. I mean, Carnival cruisers I think really must love gambling. I've never seen a casino so continually full. It was crazy. One nice thing was that they had separate smoking/non-smoking areas, but man, I couldn't believe how many people were always there. It was crazy!
The takeaway
We did enjoy our week on Mardi Gras. That said, we are probably done for awhile. We realized on this trip, as mentioned before, that as we age, the roller coasters/waterparks/ropes courses/etc, just don't add anything to our vacation. We just want a solid experience with good food. I think that we are probably Virgin Voyages/DCL people that when we want to try a mainstream line will be better off on something like Princess, that delivers a solid experience, though calmer. However, if we did do another mainline ship, we'd probably do Carnival again...