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    What is the best surge protector out there?

    Amazing how Floridaman999 again wastes bandwidth. Since he has nothing honest to contribute to "What is the best surge protector out there?", then he resorts to another 'off topic' cheapshot. He could learn from over 100 years of well proven science. But that means he must confront his...
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    What is the best surge protector out there?

    The Economist Magazine reports on a study that explains why many will post one sentence denials while ignoring reams of facts and numbers proven and demonstrated repeatedly for over 100 years. Even get angry because reality requires paragraphs - can not be found in soundbyte replies. In...
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    What is the best surge protector out there?

    So let's cite those numbers (that you never post). How many joules does that plug-in protector claim to 'absorb'? Why does your every post (that include cheapshots directed at me) never once post numbers? That plug-in protector claims to 'absorb' hundreds or thousand joules. A surge that...
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    What is the best surge protector out there?

    So you only read what you want to see. That inability to read more than a 1st paragraph dominates many who then post their emotions here. Some openly admit they will not read and know it is wrong. Cited repeatedly was what works. The effective solution was even defined with numbers - ie...
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    What is the best surge protector out there?

    kdonnel has demonstrated examples of what is required to have any effective protection. He did not waste bandwidth posting emotional denials. Products from Home Depot or Georgia Power provide best protection even from direct lightning strikes. But only if (and he did not discuss this)...
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    What is the best surge protector out there?

    That paragraph does not tell anyone what to do. Anything that does not also say why and with numbers is wasted bandwidth. Does not matter how accurate it is. If reasons why and numbers are not provided, then it must be treated as if propaganda promoted by extremists. That principle applies...
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    What is the best surge protector out there?

    Wonderful. You are now asking questions to learn. Yes, that is what code says. Now add other facts that may not be known. Bonds (connecting electricity to ground) on any pipe is a major code violation. Bonding (notice the different verb with an exact same spelling) must occur within inches...
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    What is the best surge protector out there?

    The reply was a soundbyte. So it can only say effective solutions exists. And not for $1. Please read with greater care. About $1 per protected appliance. Five year olds cannot read. Layman can start with this simple summary...
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    What is the best surge protector out there?

    Basic electrical knowledge says grounding to water pipes is bad - and a code violation. In Iraq, a soldier was killed in the shower because someone grounded to water pipes. One who made many erroneous denials also did not know why water pipes are not safe grounds. For surge protection, an...
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    What is the best surge protector out there?

    What protects facilities that cannot have damage was recommended repeatedly. It costs about $1 per protected appliance. And is essential to even protect plug-in protectors - that costs tens of times more money. Both are called surge protectors. One is a solution proven by science and...
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    What is the best surge protector out there?

    Best protection works on all electric systems from 1920 knob and tube to 2018 wiring. On all two and three wire electric. Using fuses or circuit breakers. If that was not obvious, well, most here want to argue and post cheapshots rather than learn what was routinely installed in facilities...
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    What is the best surge protector out there?

    When one cannot think for himself, then one attacks others. As if that is proof of superiority. In an honest and technical discussion, no person is relevant. When simple technology or honesty is too difficult, then the nave post cheapshots. Cheapshots are another symptoms of one who is...
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    What is the best surge protector out there?

    One can be emotional and only entertain hearsay from strangers (who are speculated as friends and informed). Or one can do what is always necessary to separate lies from facts. Where is one honest fact in wirecutter.com and cnet.com? None provided. Those articles are so similar to what was...
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    What is the best surge protector out there?

    Urban myth. If that refrigerator or vacuum damaged other appliances, then it is first destroying itself. All appliances (even refrigerators and vacuums) have internal electronics. Spikes from household appliance are classic urban myths. Some numbers. Some appliance generate electrical noise...
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    What is the best surge protector out there?

    Do you know how to stay on topic? Or just want an excuse to personally attack someone? Topic is obvious: What is the best surge protector out there? Do you have anything useful to contribute?
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    What is the best surge protector out there?

    Then why do you and others keep replying - albeit only with your emotions. With nothing useful or informed to contribute? Well, you have no idea how electricity works. Since you were so easily brainwashed, then an ego must be protected. An ego cannot admit how easily you have been scammed...
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    What is the best surge protector out there?

    Since "major appliances shutting down quickly" occur frequently daily, then GFCIs, CFL & LED bulbs, garage door opener, microwaves, and clock radios are replaced daily. Why is nobody doing that? We all must be confused. All appliances are destroyed repeatedly each day. A plumber says so. If...
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    What is the best surge protector out there?

    Those other surges act just like lightning. A surge (from lightning or other sources) is an electrical current hunting for earth ground. Either it is connected to earth BEFORE entering. Or finds earth ground destructively via some appliance. Does not matter if lightning, a failed transformer...
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    What is the best surge protector out there?

    Put some numbers to those voltage fluctuations. How much fluctuation can exist without damage? International design standards (before the IBM PC existed) put non-destructive fluctuations at up to 600 volts for 120 volt electronics. Todays appliances are even more robust. For example, one...
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    What is the best surge protector out there?

    So what are these spikes? If spikes exist as naysayers believe, then how many clocks, dishwashers, GFCIs, refrigerators, LED & CFL bulbs, furnaces, clock radios, TVs, and smoke detectors (less robust appliances) have been surge damaged this month? Other surges are created by wind, tree...
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