Yee Haw Bob Sexual Harrassment

[anniemae]

How often does he perform? Is he still doing shows?

 

[AngiTN]

How often does he perform? Is he still doing shows?

3, 4 nights a week at Disney. He hasn't had a performance since this news broke, or maybe he was on stage when it first broke, not sure of the timing. Believe his next scheduled show is Wednesday (tomorrow) night

 

[AliceAnn]

Probably far fetched but Bob seems to be of slight build, maybe she unsteadied his piano bench as she plopped down on it. His natural reaction would be to try and steady her .. reminds me of the Seinfeld episode where Kramer stops short & George’s mom thinks he made a pass at her ..

 

[AngiTN]

It's really none of our business either way. If it were me in either of their shoes this thread would be distressing.

That said, I do (hypocritically) wonder how he found out and if he remembers/knew about it from 2013?

My hope is for the best/fairest outcome for all involved. :/

No question in my mind someone alerted him to the word of this coming out
I'd venture to guess all of us know if we've ever intentionally groped anyone or not so I'm going with yeah, he knows if he did it or not (in his mind at least)

 

[anniemae]

3, 4 nights a week at Disney. He hasn't had a performance since this news broke, or maybe he was on stage when it first broke, not sure of the timing. Believe his next scheduled show is Wednesday (tomorrow) night

Will be interesting to see if he has a show tomorrow.

 

[JerseyJanice]

Honestly, how could he remember? Either he is a groper and does this a lot (I doubt she was special enough to stand out) or he isn't a groper and again, I doubt she's special enough to remember.... He sees a lot of people over the course of a year.

Assuming that she was truthful about complaining to Disney 6 years ago or in 2013 (whichever it was) and he was questioned about it by his superiors, I think that would be very memorable.

 

[Mermaid02]

Assuming that she was truthful about complaining to Disney 6 years ago or in 2013 (whichever it was) and he was questioned about it by his superiors, I think that would be very memorable.

Excellent point!

 

[Ajax]

And everyone who is so opposed to this woman has run out the opposing views on this thread, so now we just have two polar opposite threads with no one willing to speak up against the majority. Great.

Posted opinions and questions contrary to the statement made by Michelle on her page, then copied to Mike Scopa's, have been met with open hostility, demands that they be removed, or outright 'unfriending' of the poster. That makes it a bit difficult to establish any sort of a dialog.

 

[adelaster]

Assuming that she was truthful about complaining to Disney 6 years ago or in 2013 (whichever it was) and he was questioned about it by his superiors, I think that would be very memorable.

Yup, my point. Thanks for translating me to the masses.

 

[jrmasm]

Assuming that she was truthful about complaining to Disney 6 years ago or in 2013 (whichever it was) and he was questioned about it by his superiors, I think that would be very memorable.

You would think. Maybe he’s lying about remembering? Seems just as possible as his accuser lying.

 

[NYCgrrl]

Who are the reliable sources? What makes someone a reliable source?
Couldn't you say Bob himself was a reliable source? Afterall he would know if he did it or not.

Posts like that aren't written to inform people of the truth, they are written to rile people's emotions up. In this case so they grab their pitchforks and torches and jump on the bandwagon to get him fired.

IMO , a reliable source would not be FB, Twitter, Goggle, etc whose executives/general consuls recently testified before Congress and noted they neither vet or clarify their posters' input as it regards the news and politics and base their popularity listings without vetting either. This has allowed several notorious YouTubers and Twitter accts who traffic in wild speculation to open more than one well paid subscription accounts as well as the Russian "bots" . At least 2 of those organisations testified that they would be making policy and algorithm changes in the near future to combat the lies that are known. Those lies included "reporting" about Devin Kelley and Stephen Paddock that also appeared on this forum.

I won't insult anyone's intelligence by reminding them about what they learned about journalism in grade school and will assume that is merely a rhetorical question.

 

[tikkipoo]

It is interesting to me that the other Disney based outlets in "the community" are stone-cold silent on this subject. But I guess they couldn't win in any way they decided to report on it. They are probably just as torn as the rest of us on the whole situation.

It also appears that this thread is no longer appearing on the new posts search.

 

[Kaytie]

My planned visit after December will not include children so doubt that "family friendly" will be part of the agenda.

Why? Family friendly means there nothing obscene or risqué, not that it's geared to children.

 

[mummabear]

And everyone who is so opposed to this woman has run out the opposing views on this thread, so now we just have two polar opposite threads with no one willing to speak up against the majority. Great.

I don’t think anyone has been run out of this thread at all.
Unlike her post where people are calling for his head.

It seems here people are willing to believe her but see some issues with her story:
-Really she has been tramatized for 6 years from a butt grab?
-She is contradicting herself, is it 6 years or 4?
-She has photo evidence but is not willing to share it
-No one else has come forward, he has played thousands of shows, is it likely that if he was the pervert she claims that she would be the only person to come out accusing him?
-Disney’s supposed $500 cheque seems sooo unlikely. They would a) not want to admit fault b) not be the kind of company to be stupid enough to do so without a nda being signed c) who rips up a cheque even one you are offended by?
-She has continued to promote a business that she feels has swept her “sexual assault” under the carpet even though she was so offended that she ripped up a cheque?
-Disney is not the sort of company to have risked keeping him on staff if they had any doubt about his innocence, their reputation is too important and while he is popular he is hardly someone worth carrying any risk for.

No one has suggested that she has made the whole thing up, but many feel that while she may have interpreted the situation in this way that he (and other reasonable people) would interprite it differently.

Lastly what people are questioning is some people’s desire for people to believe accusers immediately and without question. I wouldn’t want to live in any society where we assume guilt until the accused can prove innocence.

 

[tarheelmjfan]

Lastly what people are questioning is some people’s desire for people to believe accusers immediately and without question. I wouldn’t want to live in any society where we assume guilt until the accused can prove innocence.

This is my problem with the whole thing. It isn't uncommon for innocent people to be accused of horrible things. It's terrifying to think the closed minded lemmings that automatically believe the accuser in all situations may actually control my or anyone else I loves fate at some point. I know two people who were falsely accused of horrible crimes. One lost everything, including his health, before the truth was eventually revealed. As is the case many times, it was a personal vendetta. Trial by social media is totally irresponsible. An adult should never find that acceptable much less encourage it. I believe in the truth. We haven't heard nearly enough to form an opinion on what that is. Without proof, the mature, responsible person waits for evidence, before crucifying anyone whether that be the accuser or the accused.

 

[gwynne]

It is interesting to me that the other Disney based outlets in "the community" are stone-cold silent on this subject. But I guess they couldn't win in any way they decided to report on it. They are probably just as torn as the rest of us on the whole situation.

It also appears that this thread is no longer appearing on the new posts search.

I just used the new post button, new posts popped up like usual including recent posts from this thread. Maybe there was a brief glitch or something when you tried.

 

[GreatLakes]

And everyone who is so opposed to this woman has run out the opposing views on this thread, so now we just have two polar opposite threads with no one willing to speak up against the majority. Great.

Except that isn't true. On the FB post the only viewpoint allowed is "he is guilty and no proof is needed. No discussion is allowed that doesn't agree with this viewpoint".

The opposite of that would be "he is innocent and no proof is needed. No discussion is allowed that doesn't agree with this viewpoint". That isn't what you have here. The basic consensus here is "no one knows what happened but I want proof before determining guilt". That should be the only actual viewpoint, skepticism in the absence of proof. It is the foundation of our entire legal system and the same burden of proof that exists in a count of law should exist in the court of public opinion.

 

[aristocatz]

I'm kind of neutral on whether or not I buy the story. I know just about as much about Yeehaw Bob as I do about the accuser. Could be true though-just because you work for Disney, it doesn't make you exempt from being gross.

 

[JerseyJanice]

Why? Family friendly means there nothing obscene or risqué, not that it's geared to children.

I’ve seen Bob perform three times. He interacts with his audience and encourages their participation in the show. He kept it clean even with guests who had a few too many.

His show is lots of fun, and it really makes me sad to think it could be gone because one woman believes he pinched her rear end 4 or 6 years ago.

 

[mummabear]

I'm kind of neutral on whether or not I buy the story. I know just about as much about Yeehaw Bob as I do about the accuser. Could be true though-just because you work for Disney, it doesn't make you exempt from being gross.

It certainly doesn’t.
However I have a hard time believing that Disney would allow an employee to stay on after they have been investigated if there was any doubt.