So much Disney food is terrible

[RivShore]

We're talking about a company whose former CFO said to shareholders that Disney could reduce food portion sizes not only to save money, but to help trim America's waistlines. She made in excess of 20 million dollars a year in salary.

In fact, as a result, it was a discussion on this board that she should be fired. https://www.disboards.com/threads/christine-mccarthy-should-be-fired.3903138/

You're talking about a corporate system that works for everyone at top, but doesn't work well for anyone else. And that's fine if you subscribe to that school of thought that this is okay ... that this is working the way it should. I do not. But to say that corporate greed is sort of subjective, I think, is a way to try and gaslight the masses.

So I ask again who and how do you decide when something has crossed the corporate greed line? I assume your talking about some kind of central control of pricing for completely discretionary services like theme parks and restaurants. That kind of central control has never ever ever worked for the benefit of anyone, at the top or the bottom of the economy.

 

[BK2014]

You're talking about a corporate system that works for everyone at top, but doesn't work well for anyone else. And that's fine if you subscribe to that school of thought that this is okay ... that this is working the way it should. I do not. But to say that corporate greed is sort of subjective, I think, is a way to try and gaslight the masses.

If the corporate system only works for those at the top, how do you explain the tens of thousands of Disney castmembers who choose to work for the corporation, and those who continue to seek employment there? And when did disagreeing with someone become "gaslighting"?

 

[Chili327]

Exactly, if you don't supply the right amount of profit to shareholders, you cease to exist and if you don't supply the right amount of value to the customers, you cease to exist.

Disney is finally doing the first part of that again and, as proven by the crowds still showing up, must be providing perceived value to many customers. The free market cures these ills, it may take a bit of time but it will cure it in every industry where there is competition.

Also id add that as much as I nag at corporate greed, I also can recognize the difference between Disney and Six Flags… the difference is huge and very noticeable. Disney spends a lot of money on things regular theme parks don’t. And it shows.

 

[lowlight]

how do you explain the tens of thousands of Disney castmembers who choose to work for the corporation

Stockholm syndrome. I kid I kid. Have you ever seen Severance?

 

[Chili327]

So I ask again who and how do you decide when something has crossed the corporate greed line? I assume your talking about some kind of central control of pricing for completely discretionary services like theme parks and restaurants. That kind of central control has never ever ever worked for the benefit of anyone, at the top or the bottom of the economy.

Don't want to get too off topic about the food (otherwise will need to move to the controversial section), but...

I would say when a CEO makes over a certain percentage, while ALSO AT THE SAME TIME the lowest paid employees can not afford to pay rent, medical bills, & other basic necessities.
Financial freedom is the foundation of what's wrong in this country, when people can not afford to live a normal life, there is an issue (even if they eat avocado toast. lol), & when they can not quit to get a better job because they are too poor to do so, there is a problem, and especially when that company makes an enormous profit. Companies need to make money, Executives need to be paid well, but at some point it does cross a line... Not sure where that line is exactly, but there are too many that have crossed it.

 

[nickster91]

Don't want to get too off topic about the food (otherwise will need to move to the controversial section), but...

I would say when a CEO makes over a certain percentage, while ALSO AT THE SAME TIME the lowest paid employees can not afford to pay rent, medical bills, & other basic necessities.
Financial freedom is the foundation of what's wrong in this country, when people can not afford to live a normal life, there is an issue (even if they eat avocado toast. lol), & when they can not quit to get a better job because they are too poor to do so, there is a problem, and especially when that company makes an enormous profit. Companies need to make money, Executives need to be paid well, but at some point it does cross a line... Not sure where that line is exactly, but there are too many that have crossed it.

I get it - ignorance is bliss. Admittedly, I know I'd enjoy myself much more if I didn't poke my head under the rug.

But for starters, how about Disneyland employees who work full time but can't afford rent? They live in their cars. Don't take my word for it. It made national headlines, and even Abigail Disney spoke out about it. This is just 1 example.

Anyhow, to take us back to the subject of bad food. I really think this review of Monsieur Paul speaks volumes.

 

[nickster91]

If the corporate system only works for those at the top, how do you explain the tens of thousands of Disney castmembers who choose to work for the corporation, and those who continue to seek employment there? And when did disagreeing with someone become "gaslighting"?

I don't know if the majority of folks are actually making a choice. That's the thing.

I understand what you are saying. I just think we are at the point where it is so right there in our faces that it seems less of a differing opinion, and more of ignoring a fact.

 

[Chili327]

I get it - ignorance is bliss. Admittedly, I know I'd enjoy myself much more if I didn't poke my head under the rug.

But for starters, how about Disneyland employees who work full time but can't afford rent? They live in their cars. Don't take my word for it. It made national headlines, and even Abigail Disney spoke out about it. This is just 1 example.

Indeed.

 

[Minnie1222]

Instead of waiting for Corporate to make a change, why don't we as customers try to change first? For starters, quit whining about the food that are made and served by the very people that we have been so passionately spoken about. Don't make a fuss if our plate is one bean short. Stop pretending that we are all Michelin-bound chefs. Eat it up, or not. Be grateful and always leave at least a 25% tip.

 

[PinkPixel]

Examples? We’re ordering in McDonalds breakfast because we find it so terrible.

Where are you staying?? Disney breakfast is my fav guilty pleasure. Love the croissant bacon egg cheese and potato barrels.

 

[Chili327]

Instead of waiting for Corporate to make a change, why don't we as customers try to change first? For starters, quit whining about the food that are made and served by the very people that we have been so passionately spoken about. Don't make a fuss if our plate is one bean short. Stop pretending that we are all Michelin-bound chefs. Eat it up, or not. Be grateful and always leave at least a 25% tip.

No one is whining about employees, and I would hope we all tip very well and send comments whenever we can.

*edit* I can’t say no one, maybe someone is. lol

 

[TheDailyMoo]

Back to the topic at hand...Narcoossee's has been the only constant of excellence in the last almost 20 years of eating there. Literally enjoy it the same now as I did the first time I fell in love with it. There are other new great places to eat like Steakhouse 71 that to me is the best bang for your buck on campus but Narcoossee's will always be my favorite.

 

[Chipapa]

To be honest, just about most corporated businesses, including food service businesses have employees that are paid low wages so they can keep costs low and profits high. Remember, corporations don’t deal in feelings, they only exists with a fiduciary purpose.

As far as food, I feel most places, especially corporate owned restaurant chains, not exclusive to Disney have been lacking in food quality period.

I have gotten to the point where I just cook for myself and my wife or her me. I just go to local businesses for a night out I know the quality has been good.

I have had good meals at Disney and not so good meals. So mileage may vary:

 

[RivShore]

Trying to stay on topic...kind of...lol

No one is whining about employees,

But many are a lot of the time on this thread, no? When the complaint is about something over or under cooked, tasted good one day but not the next, etc., that is clearly an employees fault, no?

To be honest, just about most corporated businesses, including food service businesses have employees that are paid low wages so they can keep costs low and profits high

That is not always the case. There is value to be had at some chain restaurants - is the 9.99 burger, fries, soda deal places like Chili's and others have right now, not a great value for the customer? A made to order full service burger for less than a fast food joint, even if it's mediocre, there is value there.

Remember, corporations don’t deal in feelings, they only exists with a fiduciary purpose

A successful business starts with a satisfied customer. without that customer "feeling" satisfied, the company would not exist long enough to gouge anyone.

I just go to local businesses for a night out I know the quality has been good

We lean towards that also but by no means is that night out cheap! If you are anywhere near a big city, the prices are the same or more than a WDW TS place.

 

[Chili327]

But many are a lot of the time on this thread, no? When the complaint is about something over or under cooked, tasted good one day but not the next, etc., that is clearly an employees fault, no?

Yes, true. Probably is an employee somewhere to blame for it. but quality of food is not up to them, & I guess i was more thinking about wait staff being too slow, or actual service issues, but I'm sure there are those complaints out there too.

 

[Chili327]

That is not always the case. There is value to be had at some chain restaurants - is the 9.99 burger, fries, soda deal places like Chili's and others have right now, not a great value for the customer? A made to order full service burger for less than a fast food joint, even if it's mediocre, there is value there.

It's a slippery slope for sure, how low of quality do we want. lol

A successful business starts with a satisfied customer. without that customer "feeling" satisfied, the company would not exist long enough to gouge anyone.

I am amazed at how some businesses keep going, which may be the point of this thread in the first place, so many think Disney is a ripoff, but of course they are doing very well. I think the bar can be lowered overall & we all start to just suck it up & patronize places anyway, even though we don't think its worth it.