Need an opinion here

We are really looking forward to our day at Catalina. I love your thread on the Island. I was glad to see you were able to do the birthday trip last year. Have fun next month! We are trying to determine the best things to do on the island. Someone mentioned the submarine is sometimes not the thing to do on a murky day. I love the idea of the flying fish tour and the sea lion tour. Still thinking about the kayaking, we are not a zip line type of group! If we take the first Express over should we be able to book our adventures without too much fuss? Can we get around the Island by walking or should we definitely rent a golf cart? We need to figure out the best day to go to Catalina now that we know we are facing 3 grad nights and the Lone Ranger Premier during our DL visit!
thymed -

I wholeheartedly endorse a Catalina Island day trip (see the blue link in my signature below)! I've been a big Catalina fan for 25 years (and am going there again next month to take advantage of the Catalina Express Free Birthday Round-Trip boat ride promo, which has been running for 3 consecutive years).


For one-day trips without overnight stays and to maximize your time, Catalina Express is 100% better. The Express has many more departure and return times -- out of Long Beach and San Pedro, but Long Beach is the one I recommend. (There is an Express terminal right near the Queen Mary, the Aquarium of the Pacific and Shoreline Village.) Yes, the price is higher for the Express (though you can sometimes find small discounts online) than the Flyer, but it's because you get more flexibility with when you want to go to the Island and when you want to return from the Island.

Thanks!!! We will use the Express out of Long Beach!


If you're going to be in Newport Beach, I would just stay in Newport and enjoy what that wonderful city has to offer. In fact, fellow DIS'er pixarmom has a great thread with detailed Newport Beach photos and information - here.

Trying to determine whether to go to Long Beach, or Santa Monica. We would love to do some swimming, hopefully the water won't be too cold!!! I have read that swimming off the beach at Avalon is not recommended
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I live reasonably close to Hollywood. Actually, I am extremely close to The Grove/Farmers Market, Los Angeles County Museum of Art, the Petersen Auto Museum, the La Brea Tar Pits, etc. (Those would all be great places to visit on your Hollywood day, if you have time.) Canter's Deli is just a quick dash up Fairfax. The famous Pink's Hot Dogs is a few minutes away, on La Brea. Melrose, Santa Monica Blvd. and Sunset Blvd. are all within minutes. Beverly Hills and Rodeo Drive are a few minutes to the west.

I think it would be great fun to visit some of these. How difficult is it to find parking in these areas? We had a costly lesson in paying close attention to parking signs in New York a few years ago!!!!

My immediate area is good (with The Grove and LACMA and all of those places). I like it. As for Hollywood -- personally, I used to spend much more time on Hollywood Blvd. in my younger years (there were a lot of cool collectible shops for musicians and/or music fans). Now? Eh...not so much! Even though there are parts of Hollywood Blvd. and shops that are interesting and should be seen at some point (like the Chinese Theater), the overall area is often kind of on the 'sketchy' side and it scares people away, I think. There have been "clean up Hollywood" efforts in the past, and those work for a brief time, but then the area goes right back to being sketchy again!:rotfl2:

We just want to see the Walk of Fame and Chinese Theater, EL Capitan & Disney Soda Fountain Store. Hoping it will be safe to park at the Hollywood & Highland Center. I was thinking this was the perfect plan because we could store our suitcases in the rental until we get to Anaheim to check in. But I have no desire to put our group in any dangerous situation since half of our group will be teenagers!


Fellow DIS'er DizNee Luver described her not-so-great experience in Hollywood in her December 2012 Trip Report. She had a multi-day trip (like you will have) to Disneyland -- and one of the days was spent in Hollywood. I'll have to find the link to that particular post in her TR so you can read about it. Let's just say that she regretted going to Hollywood and not taking my advice to visit The Grove and Farmers Market instead!

You have my complete attention I think I need to read this trip report!!!

Have fun planning!

Thanks, all of the tips and personal experience reports are great for helping me figure out what is the best use of our time!! Thank you and please keep them coming!!!
 
Thanks for the input

I like what everyone has said so far because for the most part everything is true. I think 7 days is a lot of time to do SoCal, but it does sound like you are trying to get a lot done.

Warner Bros. is great, keep in mind they only do them on the weekdays, and I personally think the earlier tours are generally better than the afternoon ones. Also keep in mind there are no guarantees as to what you are going to be able to see at any of the studio tours. One tour may run into Conan O'brien, cast members from 2 & A Half Men, Big Bang Theory, and Mike & Molly, and another tour will just me wandering around aimlessly around an empty lot. Nonetheless the tour guides will try to be entertaining and informative.

We have decided to do the Warner Brothers and skip the other studio tours.

As for Hollywood, I guess you really might have to ask yourself what you really want to see before you plan to get here. Some film buffs would like to visit the historical parts of Hollywood and find where certain things were filmed or where stars use to live. Are you into current pop-culture entertainment news such as TMZ? I know that the boring tourists tours are always there, but TMZ shows you the Hollywood of today, like where Lindsey Lohan likes to party (Disney tie-in ;)). The Grumman's Chinese Theatre is cool to look at. I once saw a movie and sat right next to Cameron Diaz, and we were sharing the same arm rest the entire movie. Seriously that happened.

That would be extremely cool!

I do recommend watching a movie at the El Cap, mainly because it is a movie going experience that you are probably not going to find at home. They usually have some kind of pre-show with an organist, the movie theatre is an old school one with a balcony, and it's right next door to the Soda Fountain place, which the theatre allows you to bring food there.

This would be lots of fun the Disney Monsters movie is premiering the week after we leave :(

Stay away from the 5, the 405, and 101 between the hours of 7AM-9AM, and 4PM-7PM. For whatever reason also, Tuesdays and Thursday are the heavier traffic days.

Thank you, I have made note of the routes and times!


I see it as a 1 day excursion, but not an overnight thing.



God only knows why Real Estate is at a premium in Hollywood.



This is all great stuff. Can't wait to hear the podcast. Just so you know, I spend most of my drive time around LA and OC listening to the DisUnplugged, both coasts.;)



I recommend leaving out of Long Beach too. I've done this twice, and also there are other cool things to do in Long Beach if you are so inclined. Beside the Queen Mary and the Aquarium, they have The Pike which has shops and restaurants, but they also have a Laugh Factory. If you wanted to go see comedians and not want to be in Hollywood, this is the place. (They have one of these in Hollywood, but why go to Hollywood for this one?)

We will do the beach one day and Catalina one day to try and maximize the experiences! The Laugh Factory sounds like it could be great depending on if we can get the teens in too (or would that be a bad idea??)

I feel the same way too. I'm 36 now, but I'll say that 15 years ago, Hollywood means something to me different now than it did when I was chasing the dream of being in the entertainment industry. I do have a business in Hollywood (a local theare company, but that's a whole different topic.) Although Hollywood is being re-gentrified, it is a slow but sure process. As far as "sketchy", though there are parts that seem like it and feel like it, if you stay around the Hollywood and Highland area or west, you'll be fine.

Also, if you happen to like music stores, one of the last ones in the area still exists called Amoeba Music on Sunset and Ivar. This place can be dangerous in the sense that you'll walk in with money, and walk out with tons of CDs, Records, or DVDs.

This sounds perfect for my husband, the music enthusiast!!!

For the most part, I think Hollywood is what you make of it. You have to know what you want to get out of it and do it. I would keep asking around from other people as to what they think. Check out some of the Podcasts that the DL Team have done. Nancy does a very good job covering a lot of great information. Heck, though you may just have your hotel stay in Anaheim the entire time, you might wind up heading up to Hollywood twice! Happy travels :)

THANKS!!!
 
We are really looking forward to our day at Catalina. I love your thread on the Island. I was glad to see you were able to do the birthday trip last year. Have fun next month! We are trying to determine the best things to do on the island. Someone mentioned the submarine is sometimes not the thing to do on a murky day. I love the idea of the flying fish tour and the sea lion tour. Still thinking about the kayaking, we are not a zip line type of group! If we take the first Express over should we be able to book our adventures without too much fuss? Can we get around the Island by walking or should we definitely rent a golf cart? We need to figure out the best day to go to Catalina now that we know we are facing 3 grad nights and the Lone Ranger Premier during our DL visit!

Thanks!!! We will use the Express out of Long Beach!

Trying to determine whether to go to Long Beach, or Santa Monica. We would love to do some swimming, hopefully the water won't be too cold!!! I have read that swimming off the beach at Avalon is not recommended

I think it would be great fun to visit some of these. How difficult is it to find parking in these areas? We had a costly lesson in paying close attention to parking signs in New York a few years ago!!!!

We just want to see the Walk of Fame and Chinese Theater, EL Capitan & Disney Soda Fountain Store. Hoping it will be safe to park at the Hollywood & Highland Center. I was thinking this was the perfect plan because we could store our suitcases in the rental until we get to Anaheim to check in. But I have no desire to put our group in any dangerous situation since half of our group will be teenagers!

You have my complete attention I think I need to read this trip report!!!

Thanks, all of the tips and personal experience reports are great for helping me figure out what is the best use of our time!! Thank you and please keep them coming!!!

Hello, thymed!

I'm glad you got back to this thread before your trip begins! I was thinking that I ended up posting too late for you to read it and be able to alter your plans if need be.

Thank you! I was thrilled and shocked to see that the Free Boat Ride offer was being extended for a 3rd year -- and this will probably be the last year for it -- so how could I not take advantage of it again?

As for Catalina-- I have 2 threads about it: my trip report with all the photos from last year's day trip, which is the blue link in my signature below, and then the thread that began as an announcement about the Free birthday promo 2 years ago but became sort of a Catalina discussion thread, in which other people posted some thoughts and reviews as well (such as endy, PHXscuba, PrincessInOz, pixarmom, etc.).

If you get an early start on the Express and get to the Island while it's still morning, before too many people are up and about, it's a good time to get the lay of the land and see what's what. (I am a crazy person in that I will take THE earliest boat out -- I like to get on the boat that leaves in the 6 a.m. hour -- and I will sit outside, on the deck, in the morning sea air, scouting for dolphins!:rotfl2:) You don't necessarily need to take the first boat out of Long Beach if you don't want to, but I also would not recommend waiting until too much later in the morning to go. because those boats fill up.


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So, here is how I would do things, if this can be managed, but you may add some variations to the plans for the day:

1. Take the earliest Catalina Express boat that you can manage to take from the Long Beach Downtown Landing. Do not go to the terminal that is right next to the Queen Mary, as that is for large groups. Try to book your boat in advance if you can, just to be sure you reserve seats. Parking for the day is something like $12 or $15 -- I can't recall. I didn't park -- I took a shuttle -- so that's why I am hazy on the price.



2. While on the Express, if you can do it, go to one of the upper outdoor decks and sit outside for the ride over. Not everyone is a fan of sitting outside in the chilly morning air, but there are almost always dolphin sightings and some are better than others. Sometimes you may see one or two dolphins in the blink of an eye. Sometimes there could be a whole bunch of them romping in the water near the boat, and if that happens the captain will often stop or slow down to let the passengers watch and take photos. I have been on Express boat rides in which I barely caught sight of a fast-moving dolphin, and other times in which the boat stopped and the passengers gave a round of thunderous applause when dozens of dolphins decided to put on a show for us right next to the boat. You never know what kind of 'dolphin day' you will get, but it helps to be sitting outside to see it!



3. Once you arrive on the Island, if the tour offices and golf cart rental places have not opened yet then take that time to look around and get the feel of everything. Avalon is a very small town, and yes, you can easily walk to everything, which I will get to in more detail shortly.

If the tour offices are open when you arrive, try to book whatever tours you are going to do at that moment, before they book up. IF, for example, you are planning to do the Flying Fish tour (which takes place after the sun goes down and I think it may happen only once or twice each night) you will want to snap that up right away. Make sure to plan to return to Long Beach on the Express at night if you are going to do the Flying Fish tour, as you will need time to do the tour. The fish come out after dark, which is why the tour happens then!



4. Next -- Golf cart rentals. The golf cart -- for visitors -- is mainly more for driving around the hills for sort of a scenic tour of the city of Avalon, without going too deeply into the interior of the Island itself. You don't need a golf cart for transportation. There are a couple of places on the Island from which to rent carts. I recommend the place that is closest to the boat dock where you will get off of the Express; it will be on your left hand side as you start to walk into town from the boat dock -- I think it's called Island Rentals. It's basically a little shack with a bunch of carts outside. Look for the buffalo wearing red, white and blue sitting on top of the roof. BRING CASH for this. For some reason, they do not take credit cards at the rental place. It costs $40 per hour, but you get 3 hours for the price of 2 hours if you rent before a certain time like 1 p.m. or 2 p.m. The golf carts can sometimes be snapped up quickly and then you'd have to wait for another party to bring theirs back so the earlier, the better.



5. Once in the golf cart, you may drive around for a while and feel that you have seen all there is to see. Make use of that 3 hours. Don't adhere strictly to the map that the golf cart place will give you. Explore the town. Turn up or down any side streets that don't prohibit it. Drive around the hills. Look at the Zane Grey hotel/house. Stop for scenic photos against the ocean backdrop. Drive down to the famous Casino and beyond (stop for scene photos with the harbor in the background). Most importantly, stop at the Wrigley Memorial and Botanical Garden (Wrigley is the same Wrigley of chewing gum and Wrigley Field fame), which will be on the golf cart path. Check out the crazy cacti and other desert plants in the Garden, and climb the steps to the Wrigley Memorial, which has some great tile work and architecture, as well as decent views.



6. After you return the golf cart, it may or may not be time to eat. If you enjoy seafood (which I do not), people say that Armstrong's in town (along the water) is good. Others say that Rosie's on the Green Pleasure Pier (counter service) is good. If you don't care about seafood one way or the other, I like Antonio's Cabaret -- which is next to Armstrong's and has some good tables along the water. The menu has a lot to choose from, with a slant towards Italian fare. Mama's Day Old Spaghetti is good!



7. As for tours -- If you do the Semi-Sub/Sub tour, I think you'll enjoy it. It is the best way to see fish up close. Even though the Glass Bottom Boat tour is synonymous with Catalina, I would avoid it. You can't get a good view of the fish and it costs more than it's worth. The Sub is much better.

As previously mentioned, the Flying Fish tour is great fun, but it takes place after the sun goes down so you must allow time to do it. The captain shines a big light onto the water, which attracts the fish. They start jumping through the air and gliding along at rapid speed. Sometimes a fish or two might end up in the boat (though that did not happen when I did the tour). There are often hundreds of them that can be seen "flying."

Local TV personality Huell Howser did a few really great episodes of his past series that featured the Casino, the Wrigley Memorial and Botanical Garden and the Flying Fish Tour. I wish I could show you the Flying Fish Tour show! Those are all available for purchase, but I have been waiting for the free videos to be released. When Huell found out he was ill (he sadly passed away 5 months ago), he arranged with Chapman University (not far from Disneyland) to digitize his his entire catalog of work and make it available online, for FREE. Unfortunately, Chapman is taking a very long time to do this. Huell has a large volume of shows, and they are not getting through it quickly. Last time I checked the Huell Howser Archives at Chapman University's website, the Casino episode, the Wrigley episode and the Flying Fish episode were still not digitized and available to watch. Some of his other, less interesting, shows about Catalina were available, but not the main 3 that I wanted to see!

The Sea Lion/seal tour is fun. The Casino tour is good because you get to see the beautiful ballroom and the gorgeous movie theater. It's a walking tour. You could also do a tour that takes you into the interior of the Island to look for buffalo.


8. Walking around Avalon. You will see that it is a small town (not including the other 20 miles of rugged interior that you can only get to if you take a tour or a bus inland). You can easily walk from one end -- roughly, where the Catalina Express terminal is -- under the Via Casino arch, to the Casino and beyond. I always, always recommend going "beyond." Even if you reach the Casino and think you should turn around and go back, keep walking. Walk past the divers' area and follow along the path that is adjacent to the water. Walt to Descanso Beach, if you can. Some of the best views can sometimes be found when you go "beyond" the point where you think you are supposed to stop. Turn a corner or go down a dirt path and you may find something unexpected!

In fact -- I spoke about this and posted photos in my Trip Report -- one of my absolute favorite places in Avalon is a place that is supposed to be restricted from access but it is not enforced. You follow Pebbly Beach Road out to Lover's Cove, and you can easily do it on foot. I walk out to a bench that overlooks the ocean. I call it my "Thinking Spot." It's a glorious walk along the road, with nothing but the sound of the waves crashing against the rocks below. There are no walls or anything blocking the view, and often you can spot sea life. I took a sunset walk out to Lovers Cove last year and it was just as amazing as I remembered it. Nothing but the sea, the rocks and the sunset! Occasionally a resident may drive by, but it's not distracting.

Here is how to get there: When you disembark from the Catalina Express in Avalon you will see some tour offices and the Express office right there in front of you. Instead of turning to head into town, like towards the golf cart rental place, go the opposite way. Follow the road along the water and the hillside. You will probably pass some signs that say Do Not Enter or Falling Rocks, but no one enforces those because the walk is so wonderful and the residents complained. Just keep a-walkin'!!!




9. Other stuff: Correct. Avalon is often reported to be a bad beach for swimming. Water quality is apparently not good. I know that people swim there, but I think the water is better at other beaches. Also, the actual beach in Avalon is tiny -- postage-stamp size! The actual sand in Avalon is imported from other beaches in SoCal, like Redondo Beach. Avalon has a natural rock beach and not much sand of its own, so they have to haul it in! :rotfl2:

Parking around this general area, like the Tar Pits and LACMA, is not bad. There are designated places to park. At the Farmers Market and The Grove, I think there is validated parking if you eat at one of the restaurants at either place. You can always check their websites for parking info first, before going. All of these locations are quite close together -- within minutes of each other. You could really take Fairfax from Farmers Market/The Grove and turn on 6th Street or Wilshire towards the Tar Pits/LACMA. Petersen Auto Museum is at Wilshire and Fairfax.

I think that your Hollywood time will probably be fine...but I will find the link for Laurie/DizNee Luver's Hollywood installment of her December 2012 trip for you to glance over!


ETA: Here is a link to the Index from Laurie/DizNee Luver's December 2012 TR. As you can see, she has separate links to each section of the report, including a link to the Hollywood Walk of Fame post and links to the Disney Soda Fountain posts, so I think you should be able to find those sections easily. She gives her review of Hollywood in comparison to her previous visits as well.


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I apologize for this enormously long post, but just in case I am not able to get back to this thread for more than a second, or in case you don't have time to check in again before you leave, I wanted to get in as much info as possible now, in hopes that it will help somewhat! You don't need to read it all in one sitting -- but just a bit at a time! Of course, there may be variations in your Catalina plans, but at least you have a good idea of what to expect/do/see.

Have fun!
 
Hello, thymed!

I'm glad you got back to this thread before your trip begins! I was thinking that I ended up posting too late for you to read it and be able to alter your plans if need be.

Thank you! I was thrilled and shocked to see that the Free Boat Ride offer was being extended for a 3rd year -- and this will probably be the last year for it -- so how could I not take advantage of it again?

As for Catalina-- I have 2 threads about it: my trip report with all the photos from last year's day trip, which is the blue link in my signature below, and then the thread that began as an announcement about the Free birthday promo 2 years ago but became sort of a Catalina discussion thread, in which other people posted some thoughts and reviews as well (such as endy, PHXscuba, PrincessInOz, pixarmom, etc.).

If you get an early start on the Express and get to the Island while it's still morning, before too many people are up and about, it's a good time to get the lay of the land and see what's what. (I am a crazy person in that I will take THE earliest boat out -- I like to get on the boat that leaves in the 6 a.m. hour -- and I will sit outside, on the deck, in the morning sea air, scouting for dolphins!:rotfl2:) You don't necessarily need to take the first boat out of Long Beach if you don't want to, but I also would not recommend waiting until too much later in the morning to go. because those boats fill up.


:sail::sail::sail:


So, here is how I would do things, if this can be managed, but you may add some variations to the plans for the day:

1. Take the earliest Catalina Express boat that you can manage to take from the Long Beach Downtown Landing. Do not go to the terminal that is right next to the Queen Mary, as that is for large groups. Try to book your boat in advance if you can, just to be sure you reserve seats. Parking for the day is something like $12 or $15 -- I can't recall. I didn't park -- I took a shuttle -- so that's why I am hazy on the price.



2. While on the Express, if you can do it, go to one of the upper outdoor decks and sit outside for the ride over. Not everyone is a fan of sitting outside in the chilly morning air, but there are almost always dolphin sightings and some are better than others. Sometimes you may see one or two dolphins in the blink of an eye. Sometimes there could be a whole bunch of them romping in the water near the boat, and if that happens the captain will often stop or slow down to let the passengers watch and take photos. I have been on Express boat rides in which I barely caught sight of a fast-moving dolphin, and other times in which the boat stopped and the passengers gave a round of thunderous applause when dozens of dolphins decided to put on a show for us right next to the boat. You never know what kind of 'dolphin day' you will get, but it helps to be sitting outside to see it!



3. Once you arrive on the Island, if the tour offices and golf cart rental places have not opened yet then take that time to look around and get the feel of everything. Avalon is a very small town, and yes, you can easily walk to everything, which I will get to in more detail shortly.

If the tour offices are open when you arrive, try to book whatever tours you are going to do at that moment, before they book up. IF, for example, you are planning to do the Flying Fish tour (which takes place after the sun goes down and I think it may happen only once or twice each night) you will want to snap that up right away. Make sure to plan to return to Long Beach on the Express at night if you are going to do the Flying Fish tour, as you will need time to do the tour. The fish come out after dark, which is why the tour happens then!



4. Next -- Golf cart rentals. The golf cart -- for visitors -- is mainly more for driving around the hills for sort of a scenic tour of the city of Avalon, without going too deeply into the interior of the Island itself. You don't need a golf cart for transportation. There are a couple of places on the Island from which to rent carts. I recommend the place that is closest to the boat dock where you will get off of the Express; it will be on your left hand side as you start to walk into town from the boat dock -- I think it's called Island Rentals. It's basically a little shack with a bunch of carts outside. Look for the buffalo wearing red, white and blue sitting on top of the roof. BRING CASH for this. For some reason, they do not take credit cards at the rental place. It costs $40 per hour, but you get 3 hours for the price of 2 hours if you rent before a certain time like 1 p.m. or 2 p.m. The golf carts can sometimes be snapped up quickly and then you'd have to wait for another party to bring theirs back so the earlier, the better.



5. Once in the golf cart, you may drive around for a while and feel that you have seen all there is to see. Make use of that 3 hours. Don't adhere strictly to the map that the golf cart place will give you. Explore the town. Turn up or down any side streets that don't prohibit it. Drive around the hills. Look at the Zane Grey hotel/house. Stop for scenic photos against the ocean backdrop. Drive down to the famous Casino and beyond (stop for scene photos with the harbor in the background). Most importantly, stop at the Wrigley Memorial and Botanical Garden (Wrigley is the same Wrigley of chewing gum and Wrigley Field fame), which will be on the golf cart path. Check out the crazy cacti and other desert plants in the Garden, and climb the steps to the Wrigley Memorial, which has some great tile work and architecture, as well as decent views.



6. After you return the golf cart, it may or may not be time to eat. If you enjoy seafood (which I do not), people say that Armstrong's in town (along the water) is good. Others say that Rosie's on the Green Pleasure Pier (counter service) is good. If you don't care about seafood one way or the other, I like Antonio's Cabaret -- which is next to Armstrong's and has some good tables along the water. The menu has a lot to choose from, with a slant towards Italian fare. Mama's Day Old Spaghetti is good!



7. As for tours -- If you do the Semi-Sub/Sub tour, I think you'll enjoy it. It is the best way to see fish up close. Even though the Glass Bottom Boat tour is synonymous with Catalina, I would avoid it. You can't get a good view of the fish and it costs more than it's worth. The Sub is much better.

As previously mentioned, the Flying Fish tour is great fun, but it takes place after the sun goes down so you must allow time to do it. The captain shines a big light onto the water, which attracts the fish. They start jumping through the air and gliding along at rapid speed. Sometimes a fish or two might end up in the boat (though that did not happen when I did the tour). There are often hundreds of them that can be seen "flying."

Local TV personality Huell Howser did a few really great episodes of his past series that featured the Casino, the Wrigley Memorial and Botanical Garden and the Flying Fish Tour. I wish I could show you the Flying Fish Tour show! Those are all available for purchase, but I have been waiting for the free videos to be released. When Huell found out he was ill (he sadly passed away 5 months ago), he arranged with Chapman University (not far from Disneyland) to digitize his his entire catalog of work and make it available online, for FREE. Unfortunately, Chapman is taking a very long time to do this. Huell has a large volume of shows, and they are not getting through it quickly. Last time I checked the Huell Howser Archives at Chapman University's website, the Casino episode, the Wrigley episode and the Flying Fish episode were still not digitized and available to watch. Some of his other, less interesting, shows about Catalina were available, but not the main 3 that I wanted to see!

The Sea Lion/seal tour is fun. The Casino tour is good because you get to see the beautiful ballroom and the gorgeous movie theater. It's a walking tour. You could also do a tour that takes you into the interior of the Island to look for buffalo.


8. Walking around Avalon. You will see that it is a small town (not including the other 20 miles of rugged interior that you can only get to if you take a tour or a bus inland). You can easily walk from one end -- roughly, where the Catalina Express terminal is -- under the Via Casino arch, to the Casino and beyond. I always, always recommend going "beyond." Even if you reach the Casino and think you should turn around and go back, keep walking. Walk past the divers' area and follow along the path that is adjacent to the water. Walt to Descanso Beach, if you can. Some of the best views can sometimes be found when you go "beyond" the point where you think you are supposed to stop. Turn a corner or go down a dirt path and you may find something unexpected!

In fact -- I spoke about this and posted photos in my Trip Report -- one of my absolute favorite places in Avalon is a place that is supposed to be restricted from access but it is not enforced. You follow Pebbly Beach Road out to Lover's Cove, and you can easily do it on foot. I walk out to a bench that overlooks the ocean. I call it my "Thinking Spot." It's a glorious walk along the road, with nothing but the sound of the waves crashing against the rocks below. There are no walls or anything blocking the view, and often you can spot sea life. I took a sunset walk out to Lovers Cove last year and it was just as amazing as I remembered it. Nothing but the sea, the rocks and the sunset! Occasionally a resident may drive by, but it's not distracting.

Here is how to get there: When you disembark from the Catalina Express in Avalon you will see some tour offices and the Express office right there in front of you. Instead of turning to head into town, like towards the golf cart rental place, go the opposite way. Follow the road along the water and the hillside. You will probably pass some signs that say Do Not Enter or Falling Rocks, but no one enforces those because the walk is so wonderful and the residents complained. Just keep a-walkin'!!!




9. Other stuff: Correct. Avalon is often reported to be a bad beach for swimming. Water quality is apparently not good. I know that people swim there, but I think the water is better at other beaches. Also, the actual beach in Avalon is tiny -- postage-stamp size! The actual sand in Avalon is imported from other beaches in SoCal, like Redondo Beach. Avalon has a natural rock beach and not much sand of its own, so they have to haul it in! :rotfl2:

Parking around this general area, like the Tar Pits and LACMA, is not bad. There are designated places to park. At the Farmers Market and The Grove, I think there is validated parking if you eat at one of the restaurants at either place. You can always check their websites for parking info first, before going. All of these locations are quite close together -- within minutes of each other. You could really take Fairfax from Farmers Market/The Grove and turn on 6th Street or Wilshire towards the Tar Pits/LACMA. Petersen Auto Museum is at Wilshire and Fairfax.

I think that your Hollywood time will probably be fine...but I will find the link for Laurie/DizNee Luver's Hollywood installment of her December 2012 trip for you to glance over!


ETA: Here is a link to the Index from Laurie/DizNee Luver's December 2012 TR. As you can see, she has separate links to each section of the report, including a link to the Hollywood Walk of Fame post and links to the Disney Soda Fountain posts, so I think you should be able to find those sections easily. She gives her review of Hollywood in comparison to her previous visits as well.


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I apologize for this enormously long post, but just in case I am not able to get back to this thread for more than a second, or in case you don't have time to check in again before you leave, I wanted to get in as much info as possible now, in hopes that it will help somewhat! You don't need to read it all in one sitting -- but just a bit at a time! Of course, there may be variations in your Catalina plans, but at least you have a good idea of what to expect/do/see.

Have fun!

Don't apologize! This is a wonderful wealth of information that is truly extremely helpful!!! Thank you!!!!!!!
 
The mother of the family going with us called to say her oldest daughter broke her leg last night and she is unable to fly :( Looks like we have to make some major decisions............
 

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