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Old 04-09-2014, 02:03 PM   #31
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We're purchasing APs w/ DVC discount and we'll get 4 trips out of them for a total of 22 nights which works out to $46 a day or $23/per day/per person. I think that's reasonable. It will encompass 2 years worth of vacations.

How inexpensive do you want the tickets to be?
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Old 04-09-2014, 02:14 PM   #32
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We're purchasing APs w/ DVC discount and we'll get 4 trips out of them for a total of 22 nights which works out to $46 a day or $23/per day/per person. I think that's reasonable. It will encompass 2 years worth of vacations.

How cheap do you want the tickets to be?
I don't really want them to be cheap - we only go for four or five days every other year - that is about as much time as we spend - as to the money - its immaterial to us. I'm just saying that tickets are a considerable expense in the scope of a Disney vacation - one that goes up over time and is not controlled by a DVC purchase.
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Old 04-09-2014, 02:35 PM   #33
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We're purchasing APs w/ DVC discount and we'll get 4 trips out of them for a total of 22 nights which works out to $46 a day or $23/per day/per person. I think that's reasonable. It will encompass 2 years worth of vacations.

How inexpensive do you want the tickets to be?
We're doing almost the same. 4 trips but only 16 nights total. Works out to about $31 a day.
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Old 04-09-2014, 02:36 PM   #34
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I don't really want them to be cheap - we only go for four or five days every other year - that is about as much time as we spend - as to the money - its immaterial to us. I'm just saying that tickets are a considerable expense in the scope of a Disney vacation - one that goes up over time and is not controlled by a DVC purchase.
Well, in the case of the AP discount, one could argue that it is SOMEWHAT controlled by the DVC purchase. However, given your travelling habits, it would not apply to you.
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Old 04-09-2014, 03:17 PM   #35
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We similarly plan on taking advantage of APs and planning trips across two years but one calendar year. (August 2015 and Feb or April 2016.) Hopefully they'll have another good deal on APs next spring.
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Old 04-09-2014, 03:23 PM   #36
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Well, in the case of the AP discount, one could argue that it is SOMEWHAT controlled by the DVC purchase. However, given your travelling habits, it would not apply to you.
ONLY as long as Disney retains the DVC discount perk. And there is no guarantee that will last forever.

When we bought, the discount was on the length of stay passes - which did work great for us. But perks change over time. For those that bought back in the beginning, there were free tickets involved.
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Old 04-09-2014, 03:25 PM   #37
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I don't really want them to be cheap - we only go for four or five days every other year - that is about as much time as we spend - as to the money - its immaterial to us. I'm just saying that tickets are a considerable expense in the scope of a Disney vacation - one that goes up over time and is not controlled by a DVC purchase.
This is very confusing to me - because you're tired of Disney (as I've read elsewhere that you want to sell but promised somebody with a child you'd hold on the membership)?

Why not sell and pay for the family's vacation a few years down the road?

Seems like such a waste of $$$.
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Old 04-09-2014, 03:42 PM   #38
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This is very confusing to me - because you're tired of Disney (as I've read elsewhere that you want to sell but promised somebody with a child you'd hold on the membership)?

Why not sell and pay for the family's vacation a few years down the road?

Seems like such a waste of $$$.
Why should we sell? We only HAVE enough points to go every other year - last time we stayed in a Grand Villa to use up our points - it was a very nice way to vacation for four nights. We don't need the money we'd get from selling right now. After the vacation for our friends kid, our daughter will be college age - she'd like to use it (my son won't), and after that we might choose to use it to get out of the Minnesota Winter - not necessarily for the parks, but because Florida, Hawaii or South Carolina in January will be less snowy than Minnesota. Or maybe not and we will sell - we will see. If we don't use it, our dues can be paid for pretty easily renting through David's.
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Old 04-12-2014, 03:50 PM   #39
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Why should we sell? We only HAVE enough points to go every other year - last time we stayed in a Grand Villa to use up our points - it was a very nice way to vacation for four nights. We don't need the money we'd get from selling right now. After the vacation for our friends kid, our daughter will be college age - she'd like to use it (my son won't), and after that we might choose to use it to get out of the Minnesota Winter - not necessarily for the parks, but because Florida, Hawaii or South Carolina in January will be less snowy than Minnesota. Or maybe not and we will sell - we will see. If we don't use it, our dues can be paid for pretty easily renting through David's.
makes sense & nice to hear - sometimes not sure you even like Disney but you're right, FL is better than MN during winter. FYI ... my sister bought a 2BR beach front at ST. Petes for $2K - annual dues $450 - very tempting to jump on that.
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Old 04-12-2014, 04:10 PM   #40
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ONLY as long as Disney retains the DVC discount perk. And there is no guarantee that will last forever.

When we bought, the discount was on the length of stay passes - which did work great for us. But perks change over time. For those that bought back in the beginning, there were free tickets involved.
Yeah, I can only speak for what is in place now. I can't predict the future.
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Old 04-12-2014, 04:22 PM   #41
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We bought in 1993 230 points at 56 dollars a point OKW 7 years of free park tickets.

I would say averaging going once every 18 months. we usually stay in the one bedroom at OKW but have used our points at BW,Beachclub,animal kingdom lodge,Wilderfness lodge,Grand Floridian.

this year we are getting a grand villa at OKW.

I agree you can go cheaper than DVC if you use the cheaper resorts-but the comfort of DVC accomodations cannot be beat.
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Old 04-13-2014, 04:57 AM   #42
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Concerning the question about how long it takes to be "worth it" or "make sense" or "have value" or however you think of it... every family's story is different. Our purpose was not necessarily to save money. We find the value of DVC in the way it has changed our vacations: for a family of 6, 2BR suites with family rooms and kitchens are so much more relaxing than connecting hotel rooms. It also has encouraged us to go more often or for longer trips, without the extra worry of the cost of lodging.

Some people don't want to be locked into Disney vacations every year. But we live and work overseas, and when we return for a trip to the U.S., Disney is almost always something we want to do as part of a larger vacation (usually tacked on before a cruise). So DVC really made sense for us, and it had very little to do with saving money. We figured out how much we could afford and went with it.

This is the first year since we purchased in 2010 that we won't be making a Disney Parks trip, so we rented out some extra points through Dave's rental site. It was very easy, and took off any pressure to use up all our points. At least it pays for the dues.

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Note that if you intend to use points at Grand Californian, you need to own there. ESPECIALLY if you are looking at going around Christmas. Its a very small resort, its the only place to use points at Disneyland or the West Coast, and its very difficult to book at the seven month window.

There are other availability issues you should research to make sure its a good deal for you, but that one sticks out from what you said you intend to do.
I'd say this is probably true in general (not always, but more often than not). We are mainly WDW people, but wanted the option of visiting Disneyland every once in a while. We purchased Grand Californian points so we would be sure to have 11-month priority when we did need it.

As for WDW, there are so many options, we felt that it didn't matter to us which one we stayed at. As it has worked out over the years, we have managed 7-month reservations at BLT, BCV, AKV, and SSR. We will keep trying for BWV, and will now start targeting VGF. But if we end up at SSR or AKV most trips, it doesn't worry us. We have not found a resort we don't like.

BLT is probably our favorite right now, but we always intended to stay at as many different resorts as possible. So the home resort option is not nearly as important to us in WDW as it is in Disneyland.
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Old 04-13-2014, 07:26 PM   #43
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We have over 1400 points at seven resorts. And we bought many on the secondary market, saving a lot of money. Yes the cost was high and the maintenance is about 9000 or 10000 a year. But we go to Disney at least twice a year plus aulani which we own and have been to twice. And we stay for a minimum of seven days up to 12 days at a time. Plus we give days away to our kids and friends. Over an 18 month period ending last spring, I figured thst we had used or give away 60 days in a variety Of resorts. That included 10 nights at aulani in a two bedroom ocean front, which is a minimum of 1000 a night. So, in our mind, it is worth it. We would never spend that kind of money if we were paying cash. Our adult kids love Disney and will use the points long after we are fine.
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Old 04-13-2014, 10:21 PM   #44
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My only regret is not buying sooner! We literally spent 10's of thousands of dollars on rooms and suites before finally buying DVC 7 years ago. We have 545 points and I have never spent one of them outside of VGC. I have contracts at AK and SSR only because my guide in Calif. said we would get first crack at VGC. I should have done more research and waited to buy all my points there. We never seem to have any problem getting ressies there though having visited there at least 8 times. To me it has been totally worth it.
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Old 04-14-2014, 08:54 AM   #45
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Like you, OP, we struggled for a long time about whether or not buying DVC would be "worth it" to us. What sealed the deal for us was realizing that:

1. We can afford to buy resale without financing the purchase.
2. If we ever have buyer's remorse, we can sell our contract. If we did sell, we probably wouldn't lose too much $ when all is said and done, and we would have enjoyed several trips.

#2 was the real clincher. Now we are just waiting for our closing documents! We are very excited to become DVC members
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