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Old 04-09-2013, 02:58 PM   #211
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I just got back on Saturday night. My 10yr old did the finger scan, my 7yr old did not.
That's the way it used to be. Anyone using an "adult" ticket (i.e. 10 and over) does the scan, although there were exceptions, like YES tickets never did them (although I think they do now, or will).
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Old 04-09-2013, 04:57 PM   #212
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Are you sure these scanners are any different than the current ones? They looked like they just put the old ones in the new stands.

I HAVE heard that kids were now doing finger scans, but I'm not sure it's been consistently used either.
Yes, I'm sure. After the 2nd or 3rd time I worked the new entries I just had a feeling that they had a higher resolution than the legacy units as it was reading younger children's biometrics better. I've seen it read really small, skinny fingers which the older ones would not. Been doing turnstiles about 4 years so have a fairly good feel for what would usually work and what would not in the legacy turnstile.

Was having a long conversation with one of our managers about the "goods & bads" of the new entries and asked him about this. Seems I was the first to bring this up with him or other leaders but he did confirm that it is a "higher resolution" scanner and wondered how long it would take us to actually recognize it and ask.

Probably has a very technical name if we were to talk with the design engineer but for our purposes, higher resolution is what we call it.
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Old 04-09-2013, 07:05 PM   #213
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Yes, I'm sure. After the 2nd or 3rd time I worked the new entries I just had a feeling that they had a higher resolution than the legacy units as it was reading younger children's biometrics better. I've seen it read really small, skinny fingers which the older ones would not. Been doing turnstiles about 4 years so have a fairly good feel for what would usually work and what would not in the legacy turnstile.

Was having a long conversation with one of our managers about the "goods & bads" of the new entries and asked him about this. Seems I was the first to bring this up with him or other leaders but he did confirm that it is a "higher resolution" scanner and wondered how long it would take us to actually recognize it and ask.

Probably has a very technical name if we were to talk with the design engineer but for our purposes, higher resolution is what we call it.
No, higher resolution would in general be right, although it isn't just DPI but in differentiation in the bits-per-pixel too. These are optical sensors though (as opposed to capacitance scanners, like found on laptops). But I can see this being a problem with children's No Expiration tickets, as they grow older the metrics can change a bit. So even though it can do it short term, longer term can still be an issue.

Seems that 10 is still the cutoff though, right?
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Old 04-09-2013, 07:25 PM   #214
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Not a fingerprint, biometric reading. Actually, kids (depending on age obviously) do biometrics with the new touch-point entries. The new touch-point biometric scanners will read down to about 5 or 6 year old fingers a lot of the time where the legacy turnstile readers were only good down to about 10 years old depending on the finger size.
Actually, a fingerprint is a biometric reading. When your fingerprint is scanned, it takes measurements between characteristics on your friction ridge lines. These are then assigned a numerical value. It does not work as easy as the CSI shows would have you believe.
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Old 04-09-2013, 07:32 PM   #215
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Actually, a fingerprint is a biometric reading. When your fingerprint is scanned, it takes measurements between characteristics on your friction ridge lines. These are then assigned a numerical value. It does not work as easy as the CSI shows would have you believe.
I think this is a matter of semantics on what a "fingerprint" is. It is not taking an image of your entire fingerprint and storing it, and then comparing future scans against that fingerprint, which is what most people envision.

What these are doing is as you say, although it is of a relatively small area of a person's actual fingerprint (where the most differentiation is seen), picks a handful of points, and computes a numerical value. For this purpose, it boils it down to a 4 digit number. This works a LOT faster than attempting a more accurate but far more complex scan, which would take a lot longer and require storing a LOT more data.
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Old 04-09-2013, 07:33 PM   #216
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Where do we go to get the RFID AP? My family is going in May and we are buying new AP's then (DD is old enough for a ticket now )... Will we get the RFID one when we turn in our certificates at guest services? Or AP first from guest services then switch to RFID? Thanks for the help!
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Old 04-09-2013, 07:36 PM   #217
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Where do we go to get the RFID AP? My family is going in May and we are buying new AP's then (DD is old enough for a ticket now )... Will we get the RFID one when we turn in our certificates at guest services? Or AP first from guest services then switch to RFID? Thanks for the help!
If you are getting new ones, you will get RFID when you pick them up. Maybe even MagicBands

Only those who already have old APs in hand need to go to Epcot to get them converted, if they choose (for now).
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Awesome! Thanks!

Fingers crossed we get Magicbands... that would be cool!
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Sorry, I'm not really interested in surfing through all of the posts for my answer.

I'll be there May 7-11. What are the chances we'll have magicbands?
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Sorry, I'm not really interested in surfing through all of the posts for my answer.

I'll be there May 7-11. What are the chances we'll have magicbands?
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Odds right now are really low. Until we start seeing them in testing, it's zero. And then, it depends if you are among the test candidates.
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WOW!

The delivery of the Magic Bands is really going to be "Disney quality"!

How impressive!

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My kids just asked me if we will be able to pick our RFID bands colors for our trip in October.......anyone have any thoughts? Thanks.
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My kids just asked me if we will be able to pick our RFID bands colors for our trip in October.......anyone have any thoughts? Thanks.
You WILL, as far as we know, get to pick your colors. You can pay extra for "designer" versions as well.

We don't know when. Even that far out. I'm sure Disney would like to have it fully rolled out long before then, but things just aren't moving well, if at all.

Let me repeat: WE DON'T KNOW WHEN.
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You WILL, as far as we know, get to pick your colors. You can pay extra for "designer" versions as well.

We don't know when. Even that far out. I'm sure Disney would like to have it fully rolled out long before then, but things just aren't moving well, if at all.

Let me repeat: WE DON'T KNOW WHEN.
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we should start an over / under thread for magic bands, fp plus and how bad of a cluster f#&k the whole thing is going to be when it does roll out.. cant wait to schedule a fp+ for the carousel of progress

My over and under for fp+ being available to more than 40% of guests is August 1
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