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Old 03-19-2013, 11:50 AM   #46
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The group that truly has something to complain about with inappropriate comments is the LGBT community. Truly horrific comments are made regularly. I'm not even directly effected and am often horrified.
I think that is because many of the members of the team are gay so they feel they can contribute. It's a lot like Skip's comments about not taking life too seriously; you need to be able to laugh at yourself. How many times has Pete joked about buying purses, etc? It's all hilarious.
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Old 03-19-2013, 11:57 AM   #47
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I think that is because many of the members of the team are gay so they feel they can contribute. It's a lot like Skip's comments about not taking life too seriously; you need to be able to laugh at yourself. How many times has Pete joked about buying purses, etc? It's all hilarious.
I think you misunderstood - I have no problem with any of the comments on the podcast. This was in response to a post that making inappropriate comments about Catholics is tolerated by the media. I was talking about comments from mainstream media that are inappropriate in reference to LGBT individuals or groups (radio DJs are among some of the worst offenders)
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Old 03-19-2013, 11:58 AM   #48
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I think you misunderstood - I have no problem with any of the comments on the podcast. This was in response to a post that making inappropriate comments about Catholics is tolerated by the media. I was talking about comments from mainstream media that are inappropriate in reference to LGBT individuals or groups (radio DJs are among some of the worst offenders)
Everyone can be guilty of this, ESPECIALLY when it comes to trans people. Like, a lot of people don’t get that “shemale” and “tranny” aren’t funny words, they are slurs.
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Old 03-19-2013, 12:17 PM   #49
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I completely agree. I didn't catch the comment. Can some one PM me what it was?
If I understand the concern (because, frankly, I had to go back and re-listen because it never entered my mind that anything "insensitive" had been said), the comment occurred on the 2/26/2013 podcast news segment at about 51:30

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Old 03-19-2013, 12:46 PM   #50
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Was the joke about Catholics or pedophiles who just happen to be catholic?
This is a problem, in my opinion, when offensive comments are made. I'm not referring to the one made on the podcast, as I haven't heard it and don't know what it is, but oftentimes disparaging comments will be made against a whole group because of the actions of a few of its members. This is called generalization, and it's lazy and it's offensive.

Again, I don't necessarily know if this is true about this particular comment made on the podcast, but I do tend to notice that offensive comments are made against Catholics because of the relatively low percentage of pedophiles. These comments often are allowed and are brushed off. If a similar comment were made against homosexuals or African-Americans, there'd be an uproar.
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This is a problem, in my opinion, when offensive comments are made. I'm not referring to the one made on the podcast, as I haven't heard it and don't know what it is, but oftentimes disparaging comments will be made against a whole group because of the actions of a few of its members. This is called generalization, and it's lazy and it's offensive.

Again, I don't necessarily know if this is true about this particular comment made on the podcast, but I do tend to notice that offensive comments are made against Catholics because of the relatively low percentage of pedophiles. These comments often are allowed and are brushed off. If a similar comment were made against homosexuals or African-Americans, there'd be an uproar.
I disagree with this, though. The coverup and the defending of the pedophiles came from the top of the church ranks. The previous Pope shuffled the accused around so they wouldn’t face persecution. The Pope is the face of the Catholic Church. When you say “The Catholic Church harbored pedophiles”, that’s not generalization, it’s fact.
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Old 03-19-2013, 12:53 PM   #52
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I disagree with this, though. The coverup and the defending of the pedophiles came from the top of the church ranks. The previous Pope shuffled the accused around so they wouldn’t face persecution. The Pope is the face of the Catholic Church. When you say “The Catholic Church harbored pedophiles”, that’s not generalization, it’s fact.
I understand what you are saying, I really do. But even the comment you made in the quote contained here, is a generalization. It's a disservice to all of the members of the Catholic Church (clergy and non) that are appalled by the pedophilia, and who do great charity work for the poor and the sick.
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"Oh they are just like that, they goof on everyone!" That's no excuse, perhaps there needs to be some changes to the podcast......? Perhaps a slander lawsuit would change perceptions as to what is acceptable and what is not. Or maybe direct messages to advertisers asking why they advertise on a site that permits that type of libelous denigration of a religion, perhaps it's theirs. Just playing devil's advocate.......anyone remember Opie and Anthony on the radio, obviously not as bad as that but bad never the less..........no excuse.......
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Old 03-19-2013, 01:40 PM   #54
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There is, and always has been, a strange duality that exists between what can be said aloud on The Podcasts and what can appear in print on the boards.

The podcasts *often* veer into various sexual innuendos, political rants, and comments on everything from race to sexual orientation.

If any of these appeared in print on the board, they would promptly 'dissappear' with a "please refer to podcast rules" note left in their place.

Admittedly, this is kind of an odd practice, but one that I've grown used to over the years.

As a gay man myself, I've often "LOL'ed" at some of the topics that have, um, arisen over the years, all the while taking it with the good humor with which I know it's intended, and also knowing that there is NO WAY in "heck" I could could ever start a like-minded thread like that in actual print.

Sex, religion and politics and the three big "no-no's" on these boards. This is understandable since nothing can "push a persons' buttons" more quickly than any or all of these topics.

Still, on the actual podcast, their envelope gets pushed as much as possible without (usually) upsetting anyone too badly.

Occasionally, that envelope breaks.

It's a small price to pay, IMO, for such an entertaining show.
Since I haven't heard the podcast comment in discussion here, I won't add my two cents (even though I'm a Catholic, firm in my belief).

But, I wanted to address the comment in bold above. The rules are according the the guidelines on the DISboards, not the guidelines on the podcast. Pete pretty much keeps these separate.

The disboards are family oriented, more family oriented than this particular board. The podcast is not so much.

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"Oh they are just like that, they goof on everyone!" That's no excuse, perhaps there needs to be some changes to the podcast......? Perhaps a slander lawsuit would change perceptions as to what is acceptable and what is not. Or maybe direct messages to advertisers asking why they advertise on a site that permits that type of libelous denigration of a religion, perhaps it's theirs. Just playing devil's advocate.......anyone remember Opie and Anthony on the radio, obviously not as bad as that but bad never the less..........no excuse.......
Let me get this straight, you think the Pope should sue the podcast for libel over this comment?

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"Oh they are just like that, they goof on everyone!" That's no excuse, perhaps there needs to be some changes to the podcast......?
Uh... No thank you.
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So how long does this thread have to go before someone from the podcast simply says to Cheltenham and others who were offended, "I'm sorry, I didn't mean to hurt you."

Because one "I'm sorry" here seems like it would do a lot more good then everyone tearing each other apart on a Disney board.
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I think you misunderstood - I have no problem with any of the comments on the podcast. This was in response to a post that making inappropriate comments about Catholics is tolerated by the media. I was talking about comments from mainstream media that are inappropriate in reference to LGBT individuals or groups (radio DJs are among some of the worst offenders)
You are correct, I did misunderstand.

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Let me get this straight, you think the Pope should sue the podcast for libel over this comment?
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Wow, I heard that podcast and I did not take it a slam on Catholicism as all. I took it as a funny comment of the possibility of Pete being Pope. And, yes, I'm Roman Catholic, too. I just didn't interpret the comment that way.
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So how long does this thread have to go before someone from the podcast simply says to Cheltenham and others who were offended, "I'm sorry, I didn't mean to hurt you."

Because one "I'm sorry" here seems like it would do a lot more good then everyone tearing each other apart on a Disney board.
My comment and suggestion to this would be for anyone with concerns to use the "Contact Us" link on the podcast's show notes page and send a message directly to the team.

As pointed out above, the boards adhere to specific posting guidelines, none of which have been crossed in this thread. I don't see anyone "tearing each other apart" rather than having a lively discussion. If you or anyone sees otherwise before I do, feel free to use the "Report" button.
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