New kitchen for $90,000 to $100,000???

[pocomom]

Seems high but it depends on how much is custom and how large your large kitchen is... I would check though and see if in this economy and in your area if it is smart investment. We really want to redo ours, but we are on the high end in a neighborhood that has taken a real hit- Since we don't know how long we'll stay here right now, and at the very least we know we'll downsize at some point as the kids start leaving, we've decided to live with our ugly kitchen for now. Mostly anyway, we bought new appliances, and I repaint every couple of years just to be a little happier with it

[ccgirl]

Originally Posted by momtofour

I need help from my budget minded disboard friends!! We are looking to gut our kitchen that is 22 years old. The cabinets were poor to begin with so refacing etc. will not work. The space is large so we are not adding any square footage, moving walls etc. Looking at granite, medium grade cabinets, upper end appliances. My first quote came in at about $70,000 to $80,000 not including appliances. Does that seem about right? I am going from a U shape to an L shape with a large island. I have a hardwood floor so that needs to be sanded down again. It seems exorbinant!

Our kitchen remodel was $40,000 8 years ago. It wasn't a huge place but we did silestone counters and we did medium grade cabinets as well. If you are moving plumbing at all that adds to the cost as does adding/moving any heading or duct work. Appliances are also a big difference. We went with lower grade appliances. We did not move any walls either. How large of a granite counter are you looking at?

[mrssmith06]

I would for sure get several bids/estimates. There is no way I'd spend over 80 grand on a kitchen! That price to me would mean high end everything, going ALL out, getting the best of it all.

This site might help: http://www.houzz.com/ideabooks/4228/...r-Your-Remodel

• Minor Remodels
o Average costs: $17,000 to $25,000*
o Scope of Work: Some kitchens can be laid out well and/or existing plumbing and electrical can already meet current building standards but the finishes are simply outdated and need to be updated. The layout of the space virtually remains identical to the original one.

• Major Remodels
o Average mid-range project costs: $50,900 to $59,700*
o Average high-end project costs: $103,500 to $115,500*
o Scope of Work: Some kitchens, due to poorly planned layouts and/or need major updates and/or repairs, will result in an overhaul with possible structural changes, new layout or expansion in size.

[Aliceacc]

I'm on Long Island, where things tend to be expensive. We're currently in the midst of getting estimates for our 60 year old kitchen. I'll tell you what we got.

We want to gut the 10 x 11 dining room, and the 10 x 10 kitchen, knocking down the wall between them.. We want quartz countertops (roughly the same price as granite.) And we're hoping to knock out the back wall to put in a 10 x 8 mudroom. We already got our appliances-- a 4 piece LG set on sale for about $4000.

First estimate for the whole job: $60,000

Second: $90,000

Third: he suggested instead that we bump out the front of the house for an 8x4 addition. HIs price was about $60,000. He also said the cheapest thing to do would be going to Home Depot for the cabinets and the floor plan. He said that for $150, they'll come up with a number of different plans, even come measure the space. And that the quality of their cabinets (Kitchenmade, I think) was great. (To clarify: his price was $40,000, plus ballpark $20,000 for cabinets and countertops.)

We'll probably end up going with the 3rd guy; he's gotten amazing reviews from several people. We're talking to him again next week for an estimate on the back room, then we'll decide exactly what the project will be.

It sounds to me as though your estimate for just a kitchen is high.

[TLSnell1981]

I always get three estimates, but don't necessarily go with the lowest bid.

I'm just curious (because we are planning on updating the kitchen), what brand and type of appliances are you considering?

The bathrooms are also on my list, but gee...they're are quite pricey too.

[a1tinkfans]

Aliceacc: I actually used the Home Depot Expo (which they ultimately closed, what a shame, loved the place) to do what you said, they came in for a nominal fee, and then I met with them to get a design and layout.
op:
I actually flipped my kitchen from an outside wall to an inside wall and instead put a HUGE bay window on my outside wall to view the yard..
Anyhoo, I then found a GC, who reviewed everything...I went with quartz, Silestone and love it...it is basically about the same price as granite now, but back a few years, it was actually a nice bit less.
I too had to change out plumbing and electric, but things were subbe out to specialists thru the GC (who was fully licensed and insured).
We also had a 1/2 bath gutted at the same time, and then had tile installed thru the kitchen, down a main hall, and thru the bathroom as well.
All that being said, the cost was about 40K-45....
the most important think I learned is that Spackeling is an ART...and after we saw what the guy did, we fired him and got someone else.....the dh is a person that is very picky with how paint looks, so the spackel guy was a big deal, lol
so, OP: get several estimates and compare apples to apples, because you get what you pay for, and since you work so hard for your money, you want to get the best you can within your budget.
Best of Luck, your estimate appears a bit high, but maybe they are top end people???

[momtofour]

Thanks for the opinions! I measured and would have approximately 30 feet of granite between my new island and the L. Moving the gas cooktop from an island to the L. New electrical for the ovens on a different wall other than the L. (no granite there) Existing flooring resanded. Looking for medium quality. If the $120 faucet can do the job.. great! I'll keep investigating.

[momtofour]

Concerning appliances I was looking at Wolf and Subzero. Astronomical in price with mixed reviews. Now I am considering Thermodor or to save even more KitchenAid. 2 ovens, a microwave, 6 burner cooktop, 36 inch side by side frig, and dishwasher. Should be between $10,000 to $20,000.

[starry_solo]

Originally Posted by momtofour

Thanks for the opinions! I measured and would have approximately 30 feet of granite between my new island and the L. Moving the gas cooktop from an island to the L. New electrical for the ovens on a different wall other than the L. (no granite there) Existing flooring resanded. Looking for medium quality. If the $120 faucet can do the job.. great! I'll keep investigating.

I would say a lot of this estimate is due to you moving things around (gas cooktop being moved, new electrical, etc.). Yup, that's going to cost a lot to do.

[momtofour]

I asked this kitchen designer about just keeping the existing floor plan so appliances would not be moved. I wanted to find out if I could save some real money. She didn't come up with a number but said it is not much to move it. When I asked her if I would save $10,000 she said no. If I am going through this I might as well get the floorplan I want.

[crjack]

momtofour, have you checked out the kitchen forum on the Gardenweb site? It is the DIS of kitchen remodels and we found it to be very helpful during our remodel.

People will often give you a recommendation on a contractor, installer, etc through PM's and I am sure you will find someone there who is in your general area.

We did a very large, extensive kitchen and although it was high your price seems a little too high without appliances. We also did not do any of the work ourselves.

Best of luck.

[Aliceacc]

Originally Posted by momtofour

Concerning appliances I was looking at Wolf and Subzero. Astronomical in price with mixed reviews. Now I am considering Thermodor or to save even more KitchenAid. 2 ovens, a microwave, 6 burner cooktop, 36 inch side by side frig, and dishwasher. Should be between $10,000 to $20,000.

Consumer reports has a kitchen issue. Sorry, I would look up the top models for you but I lent my copy to a friend (who lost her home in hurricane Sandy.)

But take a look at their ratings!! It's SO worth the $3 for the magazine!

[penn19]

Originally Posted by momtofour

I am changing the locations of the ovens and the cooktop so electric and gas need to be moved. This quote is supposedly everything from the dumpster to painting the finished room. I am going to continue to investigate. Other kitchens in my neighborhood were really pricey. Neighbors are not too budget minded. Some are on their third kitchen in 22 years!!

I am not a GC, but we had one come out and give us an estimate on our kitchen a few years ago. My house wasn't quite as expensive as yours, but his estimate came in just over $100k. We thought he was out of his mind. We told him you can't put that much money into what our house was worth. It's just crazy. He did say that he was going to be moving plumbing, gas lines, exhaust etc....That stuff really adds to the price. Now if he had done the work (we kind of just showed him the door when he presented his proposal) it would have been awesome. It was going to have Viking appliances etc....and all the moving and stuff, I can kind of see where he came up with the figure.

I think he needed to reign us in a little when we were giving him our wish list. We figured Viking was expensive of course, but we had told him our budget was not unlimited. Anyway, still have not done our kitchen! I keep going from just changing the countertops and cabinets and calling it a day, to wanting to knock down the counters and put in new flooring etc... So until I figure that out we are in limbo.

Good luck with your remodel.

[ColoradoMom!!]

You really must visit this site - I was on it every day for about a year regarding our kitchen remodel. The navigation of this site takes some getting use to, but REALLY - all your questions are asked and answered on daily:

http://ths.gardenweb.com/forums/kitc...d.cgi?type=gal

[motor58]

Just had to chime in to say that it is sadly easy to spend that kind of money on a new kitchen. We redid our previous home 12 years ago, very modestly-cheaper cabinets, cheap floor, laminate countertops, fancy faucet, fancy stove. We must have spent 45K on it. We did move a small wall and recess the fridge. Did move the sink plumbing about 2'. That is about it, it adds up so fast. So if you want a *nicer* kitchen-no problem to spend 90-100K.

Our current home we did a partial remodel 8 years ago, and then last summer did another partial. This time we did one wall with new cabinets-very modest cabinets and they cost 6K. Which makes me think-how the hell can they charge so much for cabinets?

Your kitchen will be beautiful!!! And agreeing with everyone else to get reccs for contractors and get estimates.