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Old 02-06-2013, 12:11 PM   #1
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New kitchen for $90,000 to $100,000???

I need help from my budget minded disboard friends!! We are looking to gut our kitchen that is 22 years old. The cabinets were poor to begin with so refacing etc. will not work. The space is large so we are not adding any square footage, moving walls etc. Looking at granite, medium grade cabinets, upper end appliances. My first quote came in at about $70,000 to $80,000 not including appliances. Does that seem about right? I am going from a U shape to an L shape with a large island. I have a hardwood floor so that needs to be sanded down again. It seems exorbinant!
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It does seem high but I guess it depends on where you live and other factors, too.
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Old 02-06-2013, 12:16 PM   #3
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I need help from my budget minded disboard friends!! We are looking to gut our kitchen that is 22 years old. The cabinets were poor to begin with so refacing etc. will not work. The space is large so we are not adding any square footage, moving walls etc. Looking at granite, medium grade cabinets, upper end appliances. My first quote came in at about $70,000 to $80,000 not including appliances. Does that seem about right? I am going from a U shape to an L shape with a large island. I have a hardwood floor so that needs to be sanded down again. It seems exorbinant!
Do you live in a million dollar house? If not that seems high to me.

We replaced our countertops last summer (going to quartz) and it cost about $4k. We got a new stove, fridge&freezer, microwave and dishwasher and I think it came to about $3K.

Cabinets would've been $10-$15K -- based on our rough restimates. So in total had we done everything (but not reconfigured our space) it would have been about $20K - $25K -- and as a point of reference our house was just appraised at $210K as part of a refi.
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I need help from my budget minded disboard friends!! We are looking to gut our kitchen that is 22 years old. The cabinets were poor to begin with so refacing etc. will not work. The space is large so we are not adding any square footage, moving walls etc. Looking at granite, medium grade cabinets, upper end appliances. My first quote came in at about $70,000 to $80,000 not including appliances. Does that seem about right? I am going from a U shape to an L shape with a large island. I have a hardwood floor so that needs to be sanded down again. It seems exorbinant!


That's more than my very nice little house cost...
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Old 02-06-2013, 12:21 PM   #5
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Does not seem out of the realm of possibility
1) cabinets. Those suckers can really get expensive. Let me tell you, you start getting into different size and woods and you can easily drop 30K on cabinets alone. I feel in love at a home show with some custom cherry cabinets, shaker style. ~800 bucks a foot. I about fainted but they were gorgeous. LOL

2) Counter tops. same as above granite counter tops. once again the cost can vary according to grade but easily 200 bucks per foot.

sticker shock is definitely why many folks become DIY'ers LOL.

Heck, I spent 2,000 dollars on replacing the kitchen cabinets KNOBS.
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Old 02-06-2013, 12:24 PM   #6
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Market value of my home is about $750,000. We would not be doing any of the work ourselves. The appliances are about $20,000. I am dealing with kitchen places that do all of the work. Would I save much by hiring a general contractor? We do not know anything about this!
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I put a 2 story addition with full master bath on my house only 2 years ago and only spent $50k!
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Market value of my home is about $750,000. We would not be doing any of the work ourselves. The appliances are about $20,000. I am dealing with kitchen places that do all of the work. Would I save much by hiring a general contractor? We do not know anything about this!
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Old 02-06-2013, 12:46 PM   #9
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I haven't renovated a kitchen myself, but my home is about the same value as yours, and I think I'd be willing to put about $50K into a redo. I think this would update the kitchen to make it more competitive from a resale perspective without pricing us out of comparable homes in our neighborhood.

Like anything else we buy, you have to consider how you will use it. If you're a gourmet cook and need a pastry station, potfiller, warming trays, super duper range hood, and Viking appliances, you're going to want to spend more. If you're an average cook, you probably wouldn't want to invest in these upgrades.

The same consideration must be taken if you're looking for high design finishes or are just happy to have the room clean and modern, and doesn't have to be done again for another decade or two. For myself, granite is granite so I don't need the $200/foot variety and can happily choose something from the offerings that are $50 a foot. It helps if I never set foot in the pricier area so don't start to covet the expensive options. Others, though, might feel like they skimped every time they had to look at the counters.

There was a thread here on Ikea cabinets recently and it spurred me to investigate the reviews. I was shocked at how favorably many designers look at them.

I know that for my kitchen - which is old and outdated with dark wood cabinets and (gasp!) Formica counter-tops - I'd love to do a total reno. However, if it was going to cost upwards of $70K, I'd live with it for a few more years. Of course, then I'd redo it in order to sell it and someone else would enjoy my new kitchen while I suffered with the old one, but now we're exposing some of my own issues, so I'll leave....
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Old 02-06-2013, 12:49 PM   #10
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I would agree to get multiple estimates and try a contractor. We are looking at redoing our kitchen but we are knocking down a whole wall and utilizing porch space to extend the kitchen. Our estimates are around $60k (without appliances) and that includes custom cabinets.
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Old 02-06-2013, 12:53 PM   #11
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I agree w/ others... get several estimates and makes sure each company KNOWS your getting several estimates.. it's their job to "sell" you on using them. What can they do for you to make you pick them! Only accept bids from companies that have good reviews and insurance/bonding.
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Old 02-06-2013, 12:54 PM   #12
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Thanks for the input thus far. Keep it coming! I am looking at Sorrento cabinets (any input?) granite, satin nickel hardware. Pretty simple design. Just for fun we priced out Thomasville cabinetry at Home Depot and that alone was about $18,000. We looked at IKEA cabinets and they did not appeal to us. I will continue to shop around...........
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Old 02-06-2013, 01:00 PM   #13
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My husband is a GC and I often help with his quotes. That number seems really high to me. We are from MA so prices here are fairly high and I don't think the kitchen jobs we have done have touched that with out the appliances added in also. I am not as sure with kitchens but I know with the things like windows, the companies that do installation have HUGE markups on their install prices, so it is much cheaper to have a Contractor do the job in that case. I can ask my husband when he gets home if Kitchen places are the same and what he thinks of that number.

My advice would be to get a another quote and call a few contractors in your area and get quotes from them, I am guessing they will be less. Good Luck!
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Old 02-06-2013, 01:02 PM   #14
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That price surely doesn't seem excessive. I work with contractors every single day, I bid the work out and also get work for fellow contractors. I can tell you that two bathrooms in a condo - to gut them runs about $30k - $40k. And the bathrooms are so small that you cannot even fit a tub in the one, it has to be a stand up shower.

It definitely comes down to what you want also, are you getting wood cabinets, cherry cabinets, etc. Are you getting granite, quartz or formica? Are you doing double ovens, exhaust vents, stainless steel packages? New backsplash, new flooring, tiles?

You definitely need to get 3-4 bids from different contractors, ask to see their work (if possible). Look at pictures, and even ask around to their competitors.
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Old 02-06-2013, 01:05 PM   #15
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OP here. We live in the suburbs of Chicago. If I used a general contractor would I first hire a kitchen designer or architect to come up with the plan? Or do they do that? I am naive about this process. Then does the general contractor give me allowances for everything?
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