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Old 01-14-2013, 04:09 PM   #1
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Is it just me....

Is it just me or is the pricing to stay on property getting crazy?? Even with 30% off to the general public is nuts!! Discounted price to stay at Animal Kingdom is over $300 a night, really and a moderate is nearly $200.00 a night! They are making it very hard for a family too take a vacation there. Any thoughts....
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Old 01-14-2013, 04:19 PM   #2
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It's definitely not cheap, but it's not in "nuts" territory to me and my family yet. We've never gone without a discount of some kind so we've never paid full rack rate. We also stay at the least expensive resort we can which for us is POR because we're a family of five. For us price increases simply mean a longer time between trips because it takes longer for us to save for it. We stayed off-site once and hated it, so if we're going to go, we're going to stay on property.
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Old 01-14-2013, 04:26 PM   #3
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We are with you totally. I remember paying $69 at ASMO, and cant't believe how fast it DOUBLED!!! Now we are 5, so POR is our cheapest option and we are paying over $200 per night. We were always the "we will NEVER stay offsite" people. But have to say after working the budget for this trip....we are sitting on the tipping point to stay offsite. Think I would rather stay offsite than have to trim days off our vacation, or even try someplace else
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Old 01-14-2013, 04:38 PM   #4
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If you can be flexible with your travel dates it does help a lot! POR has rates as low as $162 a night, depending on the time of year. And the All Stars do still go as low as $85 a night. Not bad at all!
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Old 01-14-2013, 05:09 PM   #5
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I go in the off season, so the prices really aren't nuts to me at all. We typically try and keep our hotel choices between $100 - $150 when we travel and the values are less than that at Disney. The moderates are right in that range most of the time (or slightly above).

I personally wouldn't pay the price of a deluxe, but it's just because I can't justify the cost for the time we spend in the room. I don't have an opinion on them though since I've never experienced them.
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Old 01-14-2013, 05:14 PM   #6
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Yep, I'm with you, I think it is nuts. We have never stayed at the value resorts before, but that is what we're doing this time. I don't mind doing it for a change and we're looking forward to doing something different.

However, when I get on the website and see $400-$500 a night for the Deluxe Resorts, I have to wonder what on earth makes it worth that much money. Don't get me wrong , I know there are folks that love the deluxe resorts and don't mind paying for them. As long as those rooms are full the prices will stay high or get higher.

Our three kids are grown so we need 2 rooms for the 5 of us these days. We skip the parks with EMH, so that perk doesn't do anything for me. We don't charge things or have them delivered to our room... so that isn't worthwhile for us either.

Essentially, we stay on-site to use the Disney buses and some times Magical Express. It is nice for the parents and three grown kids to be able to bus back and forth when and where we want. When some of us wear out, the others can keep going if they want to.

I like the Mods, will be okay in the values, but I although I could pay for the deluxe... I just won't do it. I use the PIN or discount to get a break, but even so I think the prices of the moderate resorts are not nearly as reasonable as they were a couple of years ago.
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Old 01-14-2013, 05:25 PM   #7
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Took my wife and 2yo dd this past september and the prices of everything were really bothering me. I've gone to Disney alot so it really sucks to think i won't be able to take my daughter in the future as they continue to gouge you for everything. remember we are only a few months away from their annual because we can price increase
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Old 01-14-2013, 05:25 PM   #8
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Yes. We can't afford it. So we stay off-site and really love it. Tons of space, beautiful resort, separate bedroom for the kids, washer & dryer. And we like the flexibility of having a car and not relying in the buses.
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Old 01-14-2013, 05:29 PM   #9
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Took my wife and 2yo dd this past september and the prices of everything were really bothering me. I've gone to Disney alot so it really sucks to think i won't be able to take my daughter in the future as they continue to gouge you for everything. remember we are only a few months away from their annual because we can price increase

How is $85 a night gouging you? Not that the term has any credibility anyway. Just like any other business, Disney will charge what the market will allow. I have to say it is kind of silly to say Disney is gouging you when you just took a child to the parks for free. At 2 you didn't have to pay for your daughter's food or for a park ticket. Yep, they really gouged you.

If you are talking food, I agree the prices are high. But at least Disney will allow you to bring in your own food, unlike most other places. You can still do Disney relatively inexpensively. But you do have to work at it a bit.
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Old 01-14-2013, 07:43 PM   #10
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Yes. We can't afford it. So we stay off-site and really love it. Tons of space, beautiful resort, separate bedroom for the kids, washer & dryer. And we like the flexibility of having a car and not relying in the buses.
I think this is a very good option if you want a deluxe type resort at a reasonable price. Disney has there value and moderate resorts that are priced ok, but not what a lot of people are looking for in terms of amenities and room size. If the day comes when we can't afford a Disney deluxe. I would definitely explore the offsite options. The Waldorf cost less than the BC with 40% off.
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Old 01-14-2013, 08:08 PM   #11
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How is $85 a night gouging you? Not that the term has any credibility anyway. Just like any other business, Disney will charge what the market will allow.
Yah... we had a whole other discussion about what gouging actually is...
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Old 01-14-2013, 08:33 PM   #12
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How is $85 a night gouging you? Not that the term has any credibility anyway. Just like any other business, Disney will charge what the market will allow. I have to say it is kind of silly to say Disney is gouging you when you just took a child to the parks for free. At 2 you didn't have to pay for your daughter's food or for a park ticket. Yep, they really gouged you.

If you are talking food, I agree the prices are high. But at least Disney will allow you to bring in your own food, unlike most other places. You can still do Disney relatively inexpensively. But you do have to work at it a bit.
I wasn't just talking about the price of a room. I meant everything involved rooms, tickets, food, drinks, parking, merchandise and these greedy ***** push the price up on anything and everything they can every chance they get. They are making tons of money testing what the market can bear and paying their employees little better than minimum wage. It really takes alot of the fake magic away for me seeing it. I know my two year old was free, duh thats why I took her then, our family may not be able to go in the future. As far as disney is concerned my daughter is staying two for at least the next two years
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Old 01-14-2013, 09:06 PM   #13
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There are gradual price increases to cover costs and margins, and then there are substantial price increases intended to test the markets elasticity.

What I've seen over the last three years is the latter. Disney is most definitely testing the limits of perceived value by reducing or eliminating discounts and raising prices by double digit percentages.

Unfortunately, until it impacts demand, someone at corporate is getting slapped on the back for their ingeniousness:

"Dang, Fred! All this time we could have been charging THIS MUCH? !!!"

This year, I'm staying off site. I'll free up yet another space onsite for a Disney Apologist who's pleas for "Thank you, sir...May I pay even more?" will be happily accomodated.
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Old 01-14-2013, 09:40 PM   #14
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How is $85 a night gouging you? Not that the term has any credibility anyway. Just like any other business, Disney will charge what the market will allow. I have to say it is kind of silly to say Disney is gouging you when you just took a child to the parks for free. At 2 you didn't have to pay for your daughter's food or for a park ticket. Yep, they really gouged you.

If you are talking food, I agree the prices are high. But at least Disney will allow you to bring in your own food, unlike most other places. You can still do Disney relatively inexpensively. But you do have to work at it a bit.
Perhaps the term overcharging is more appropriate? Semantics. The word is irrelevant. The idea was communicated just fine.

$85 for a value hotel room is a perfectly fine price. The same room for $120 or more, not so great. Especially when you need to purchase 2 rooms. Now, I didn't say I wasn't going back, and I didn't say I wouldn't pay the prices. But I think some of the prices are nuts.

I agree that prices at Disney are increasing faster than other places I visit. We've stayed off property many times, and probably will again at some point in the future. Right now I like the convenience of the bus system. Some day it won't be worth it to me anymore.

The food is pretty outrageous in many cases. It always amuses me when I calculate what it will cost to get drinks and snacks for a family of 5. And I chuckle and head off to the water fountain instead.
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Hmm. I guess it's all relative. Pop at value season came out to about $75 a night weekdays, $85 weekends. Includes nice pool and park transportation, arcade, lake, food court and movies by the pool. I've stayed at one of the newer, nicer motel six out in Texas hill country for $59. Had unheated pool, no restaurant, not near lake, no arcade, and not at Disney. I think the extra $15-25 to add in some Disney magic is worth it to me. I can't weigh in on the moderates or deluxes because they are and will likely remain more than I can afford.
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