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Old 01-10-2013, 08:26 PM   #46
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hey ashlee how did the avengers do at the box office? great of course (good movie) but it barley made half of what avatar made.... if star wars id the end all be all great IP how come when it reopened the lines were tiny barely a wait in summer..if avatars land will be good based on the the main E ticket you dont need the greatest story line

if story line mattered I vote for The Godfather to have a attraction

this is not a slam on Star wars because i hope to see a greater presence in the parks

i just get tired of people trying to discuss what may be in the land and somebody has to point out the same tired arguments why they dont want to see it

i say if you dont want to see it dont go to DAK or dont go to the land

Avengers and Star Wars Merchandise sells though. Avatar merchandise is practically non-existent.

Who can name the main characters in Avatar?
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Old 01-10-2013, 08:29 PM   #47
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Op post stated a great idea on how pondora can transform day to night, that in itself would be worth the visit. Plus throw in a night show like F! Or WOC
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Old 01-10-2013, 09:06 PM   #48
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Avengers and Star Wars Merchandise sells though. Avatar merchandise is practically non-existent.

Who can name the main characters in Avatar?
so is merchandising the end all be all to theme park lands?
further more do people go to theme parks and say this land had great rides, the land was incredibly themed but the merchandise wasnt very good? nah they buy stuff


how about this, avatar did more in movie gross than all 3 of the star wars prequels combined


im not trashing avengers im simply pointing out when people talk how big avengers was they need to realize it did barely half what avatar did yet people around attempt to claim there is no fan base for avatar

and the main characters were neteri and jake sully...good movie great visuals can lead to a great themed land

like star wars
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Old 01-10-2013, 09:12 PM   #49
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im not trashing star wars because i hope they expand in DHS but if star wars is so great how come they reopened ST2 to a big dud...lines were nothing the first day so ride quality matters far more than IP
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Old 01-11-2013, 10:41 AM   #50
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Insiders are saying that Avatar is dead and instead AK is getting Dagobah and Naboo.
That would be interesting
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Old 01-11-2013, 11:56 AM   #51
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Avengers and Star Wars Merchandise sells though. Avatar merchandise is practically non-existent.

Who can name the main characters in Avatar?
Do you really doubt Disney's ability to shamelessly merchandise anything they get thier hands on?

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so is merchandising the end all be all to theme park lands?
further more do people go to theme parks and say this land had great rides, the land was incredibly themed but the merchandise wasnt very good? nah they buy stuff


how about this, avatar did more in movie gross than all 3 of the star wars prequels combined

im not trashing avengers im simply pointing out when people talk how big avengers was they need to realize it did barely half what avatar did yet people around attempt to claim there is no fan base for avatar

and the main characters were neteri and jake sully...good movie great visuals can lead to a great themed land

like star wars
Adjusted for inflation, Star Wars: A New Hope brought in almost twice the money at the box office then Avatar did.

Obviously I am not arguing for one side or the other, just presenting some pertinent points.
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Old 01-11-2013, 12:32 PM   #52
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Op post stated a great idea on how pondora can transform day to night, that in itself would be worth the visit. Plus throw in a night show like F! Or WOC
no fireworks that close to the animals - you will upset them -- maybe just a water/light show

I hope for a very cool ride that alot of people can go on - the Soarin idea works for me - AK has one roller coaster but another would be great - wich they could do 2 E ticket rides in that space
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so is merchandising the end all be all to theme park lands?
further more do people go to theme parks and say this land had great rides, the land was incredibly themed but the merchandise wasnt very good? nah they buy stuff


how about this, avatar did more in movie gross than all 3 of the star wars prequels combined


im not trashing avengers im simply pointing out when people talk how big avengers was they need to realize it did barely half what avatar did yet people around attempt to claim there is no fan base for avatar

and the main characters were neteri and jake sully...good movie great visuals can lead to a great themed land

like star wars
~Great post! I totally agree with this! Hot toy merchandise is not strong enough of an argument to demonstrate why Avatarland would not be a successful addition to Animal Kingdom. I don't see kids lined up to buy Harry Potter toys either, but WWoHP looks well done and seems to remain a huge draw for Universal.
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Agreed with a non fire work show thats why WoC type show would work. Even another enclosed theater show like FoLK nemo or an circqes KA in las vegas
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I don't see kids lined up to buy Harry Potter toys either, but WWoHP looks well done and seems to remain a huge draw for Universal.
You don't? There's TONS of merchandise sales going on at WWOHP!! Ollivanders is basically a glorified sales pitch and it usually has an hour or longer wait.
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how about this, avatar did more in movie gross than all 3 of the star wars prequels combined
Revenue does not equal quality.
I am a SW fan but did not particularly care for them either.
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~Great post! I totally agree with this! Hot toy merchandise is not strong enough of an argument to demonstrate why Avatarland would not be a successful addition to Animal Kingdom. I don't see kids lined up to buy Harry Potter toys either, but WWoHP looks well done and seems to remain a huge draw for Universal.
But I feel Harry Potter has a much bigger following. Avatar doesn't have that kind of Cult . I can see Harry Potter convention 10 years from now
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But I feel Harry Potter has a much bigger following. Avatar doesn't have that kind of Cult . I can see Harry Potter convention 10 years from now
avatar is just starting not really fair to compare to a franchise thats been around for 11 years...but i see your point...i just look at avatar as having a great appeal to a themed land

nothing to do with its story
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avatar is just starting not really fair to compare to a franchise thats been around for 11 years...but i see your point...i just look at avatar as having a great appeal to a themed land

nothing to do with its story
Exactly! IMHO. Disney is using there creative fake world of Pandora that would fit great in that park. When built Cameron will have basically free market ing for his next avatar movies. 20 years from now the land could be without the blue beings and just be. Pandora
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Exactly! IMHO. Disney is using there creative fake world of Pandora that would fit great in that park. When built Cameron will have basically free market ing for his next avatar movies. 20 years from now the land could be without the blue beings and just be. Pandora
Turn the Imagineers loose and let them do their thing! It would be awesome if their goal was to one up WWoHP. Competition in this case is a great thing. Just make it a richly themed area. Everyone will enjoy it. Just don't use Dino Land as a model.
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