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Old 01-04-2013, 08:26 AM   #16
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Speaking of shelf stable recovery beverages does anyone have any recommendations? My favorite brand (ReGen) was bought out and no longer makes theirs. Ii stocked up when I heard the news but am down to a few left.

I've tried Muscle Milk, Honey Milk, and Hammer Recoverite (this one I really didn't like - too much malt and tasted filmy - although I will say it seemed to work).

I'll probably poke around the expo a bit but I haven't been seeing much variety at them recently.
The pre-mixed market has contracted. I alternate between Muscle Milk and Gatorade G03. I find most drinks with a heavy loading of protein to have a filmy after taste. Of these two, Gatorade seems less.

I do think I am sticking in the freezer when I wake up so it has an extra chill through the moring.
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Old 01-04-2013, 10:26 AM   #17
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Speaking of shelf stable recovery beverages does anyone have any recommendations? My favorite brand (ReGen) was bought out and no longer makes theirs. Ii stocked up when I heard the news but am down to a few left.

I've tried Muscle Milk, Honey Milk, and Hammer Recoverite (this one I really didn't like - too much malt and tasted filmy - although I will say it seemed to work).

I'll probably poke around the expo a bit but I haven't been seeing much variety at them recently.
My recovery drink used to be Yuengling but is now O'Doul's.
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Old 01-04-2013, 10:48 AM   #18
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My recovery drink used to be Yuengling but is now O'Doul's.
I think I posted this last year about this time. Beer (at least the non-alcoholic variety) is now supported by science as a recovery drink.

http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/0...thon-recovery/

I'm partial to Cytomax before/during a run, and Muscle Milk afterward.
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I think I posted this last year about this time. Beer (at least the non-alcoholic variety) is now supported by science as a recovery drink.

http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/0...thon-recovery/

I'm partial to Cytomax before/during a run, and Muscle Milk afterward.
Cool Citrus and Tangy Orange for me.
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I am busily working on compression pants with ice pockets for the ankles, kness and hips and heating pad coils for the calves, thighs and glutes[/LIST]
Let me know when you make this. I'm first on the order list--and agree that would be the best combination. Ice for joints, warmth for muscles.

If any of you are independently wealthy, this is the option of the elites (and no, he does not take an ice bath):
http://www.normatecrecovery.com/mvp.aspx

Not sure I'd want to take it on an airplane though.

Just for controversy sake, my secret ingredient (still under testing) is beet juice. It is supposed to help oxygen usage in endurance sports. I've only tested it once, but I did run a strong negative split at DL half using it. 750 mL two days before, one day before, 300 mL 3 hours before race, the rest after, then 300 mL before the marathon. That's the plan. We'll see how it goes.
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Let me know when you make this. I'm first on the order list--and agree that would be the best combination. Ice for joints, warmth for muscles.

If any of you are independently wealthy, this is the option of the elites (and no, he does not take an ice bath):
http://www.normatecrecovery.com/mvp.aspx

Not sure I'd want to take it on an airplane though.

Just for controversy sake, my secret ingredient (still under testing) is beet juice. It is supposed to help oxygen usage in endurance sports. I've only tested it once, but I did run a strong negative split at DL half using it. 750 mL two days before, one day before, 300 mL 3 hours before race, the rest after, then 300 mL before the marathon. That's the plan. We'll see how it goes.
Beet juice or eating beets, just another one of Nature's items that are naturally good for us and legal for blood doping. .
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Cool Citrus and Tangy Orange for me.
Definitely Cool Citrus for me. I have a bunch of the "stick packs" to carry around with me in the days leading up to, and between, the races. That way I can buy a bottle of water, dump a pack in, and have my sport drink of choice.
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Let me know when you make this. I'm first on the order list--and agree that would be the best combination. Ice for joints, warmth for muscles.

If any of you are independently wealthy, this is the option of the elites (and no, he does not take an ice bath):

Not sure I'd want to take it on an airplane though.

Just for controversy sake, my secret ingredient (still under testing) is beet juice. It is supposed to help oxygen usage in endurance sports. I've only tested it once, but I did run a strong negative split at DL half using it. 750 mL two days before, one day before, 300 mL 3 hours before race, the rest after, then 300 mL before the marathon. That's the plan. We'll see how it goes.
Looks like I need to patent my idea quickly....


$1600 for a vaccuum cleaner motor and timer? Think if I add heat and cool I could get $3329?
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Old 01-04-2013, 12:44 PM   #24
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Looks like I need to patent my idea quickly....


$1600 for a vaccuum cleaner motor and timer? Think if I add heat and cool I could get $3329?
The only challenge will be coming up with the money to get Meb and Ryan to wear it for ad purposes.
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Has anyone ever used a hot tub between races...I have heard only bad things about doing that...what was your experience?
I have used a hot tub between races and after the races for the last 5 consecutive Goofy's and I will be in one after the races this year. I also use a hot tub after any "double digit" run. There is nothing that I enjoy more after a long run than sitting in the hot tub and sipping a tall glass of chocolate milk.

Is it good or bad for you?- I don't know, but I believe in it. For me, it seems to keep the blood flowing and the muscles and joints loose. I've never had an injury during a run, so I've never had a reason to try considering an ice bath.

I will sometimes follow up the soak with a short nap and then get back to a normal level of activity for the rest of the day. Meals are whatever I would normally eat and am comfortable with.

I must clarify that I am not an elite or even competitive runner, I'm a very "casual" runner and run for the recreation of it. The Goofy is something that I look forward to every year since I run it side-by-side with my son. We treat it as a challenge instead of a race. Finish times are secondary to the enjoyment we derive from participating.

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Looks like I need to patent my idea quickly....
At the risk of taking this thread way off topic, if you are serious about patent stuff, I'd advise you to look into it quickly. In March of this year, the patent system in the US changes dramatically, from a "first to invent" to a "first inventor to file" system. In the past, if you could prove you invented it first, you could be granted the patent even if you filed second. That will no longer be the case in March due to the Leahy-Smith America Invents Act.

Ok, now back to Goofy advice.
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I have used a hot tub between races and after the races for the last 5 consecutive Goofy's and I will be in one after the races this year. I also use a hot tub after any "double digit" run. There is nothing that I enjoy more after a long run than sitting in the hot tub and sipping a tall glass of chocolate milk.

Is it good or bad for you?- I don't know, but I believe in it. For me, it seems to keep the blood flowing and the muscles and joints loose. I've never had an injury during a run, so I've never had a reason to try considering an ice bath.

I will sometimes follow up the soak with a short nap and then get back to a normal level of activity for the rest of the day. Meals are whatever I would normally eat and am comfortable with.

I must clarify that I am not an elite or even competitive runner, I'm a very "casual" runner and run for the recreation of it. The Goofy is something that I look forward to every year since I run it side-by-side with my son. We treat it as a challenge instead of a race. Finish times are secondary to the enjoyment we derive from participating.

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That sounds like a really nice bonding time for you guys! How old is your son? My brother can't wait 'till his son is old enough to run a half with him..he is only ten now...
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That sounds like a really nice bonding time for you guys! How old is your son? My brother can't wait 'till his son is old enough to run a half with him..he is only ten now...
We ran our first Goofy when he was 18. Last year he had to drop out of the Marathon after 3 miles and I had to finish without him for the first time in 5 years.

In 2010 my then 18 year old daughter joined us for her first (and only) Goofy.
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... I will start drinking a couple servings a day of ‘tart cherry juice’ for the antioxidant benefits early in the week of the race ...
I was at Target today and saw Tart Cherry Juice so I bought some thinking of yours and Tanya's posts. First, that stuff isn't cheap! Second, they aren't kidding about the tart! I just drank a serving and I think it's burning a hole in my stomach.

There are only four servings in the container so I'll have them these next four days. Not sure if that's enough to do anything good for my body, but it can't hurt! (Unless it really is burning a hole! lol)
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This is what works for me....

First let’s back up to today
  • Hydration efforts are up just a little and will continue through race weekend
  • I plan a very serious leg work out tomorrow afternoon – one that leaves you feeling like a rag doll. This is not something I would recommend to a person who has not been working out legs through the training cycle.
  • I will pick up the percentage of carbs and good lipids over the weekend and continue through the weekend and early week (loading and focusing on the two fuel sources but nothing large or way out of whack) The amount of loading really equates to possibly 1-2 servings of nuts a day.
  • Bring the diet back to a balanced diet on Tuesday and through the race
  • I will start drinking a couple servings a day of ‘tart cherry juice’ for the antioxidant benefits early in the week of the race
Post race Saturday
  • Nice recovery drink as soon as I can after the half. I look for something pre-packaged. I like Choc Milk, but may go with a shelf capable one (i.e. no refridge) with the current forecast.
  • Once back to the room, a shower and then mill around the room. I stretch out and do a light yoga session.
  • We line up for an early lunch. I look for good fats in that meal. The BrewPub at BW used to have a great humus appetizer that served this purpose well. May head to Cat Corza’s (olive oils) for a really late breakfast.
  • I then head back for a short nap then usually walk to Epcot for the afternoon. I am the guy who you will see on a bench stretching.
  • We will head back to the room and on the way have a light meal then early off to bed.
  • I will wear compression socks on Saturday afternoon.
  • I usually do not do the cool bath thing. I think the jury remains out on whether it really works for joints not exhibiting signs of injru. Not saying that it is a bad thing or a good thing. As info, a couple recent studies seem to indicate muscles are not helped in the ice bath and that heat would be a better thing to provide in a recovery situation. I am busily working on compression pants with ice pockets for the ankles, kness and hips and heating pad coils for the calves, thighs and glutes
Subscribing to this thread, lots of great advice, especially since I WILL be running the Goofy next year!! (need to recover from my injuries and train properly).

What training programs did or are you all using for the Goofy? Jeff Galloway has one that only has a few Saturday runs. What do you think?
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