What A Sad, Boring Place

[Tink1987]

Originally Posted by mbrittb00

One problem is that this forum is read a lot less than say the Theme Park Stradegies forum, so may people will simply post there to get more exposure.

Another problem is that so often I've seen people get attacked for having an opinion on a rumor. The attackers will say something like "don't complain about something that isn't official yet", or "why don't we all just wait until it is official before we complain", etc. Getting attacked for having an opinion get old after a while.

I couldn't agree more. I only visit this bit of the boards every week or so to see if there's anything new.

Just now, I have scrolled down the board and there is 2 different threads where the OP has been beaten down for their opinion (if that's the correct term/phrase to use) That's why people don't bother.

[Lewisc]

Originally Posted by jvptravels

I remember a time when the Disney Rumors and News board was very active and even fun. Those days are long gone. This board has become a bit of a graveyard for threads and topics that people aren't interested in anymore. What happened to this place and all the people who used to participate and make it fun?

Originally Posted by beer dave

The problem is that with all the people on this site, we find out about almost any new project about 3 years before it opens. That gives us 3 years to beat it to death. The last real surprise I remember was the announcement of Avatar land, and most people on here seem to hate it. I'm all for any addition or improvement.

If Disney would do more things, we would have something to discuss other than thi fact that they do not do a lot of new things.

Once a project is announced discussion is generally done in another board. A new hotel is discussed in the resort board. There isn't a big lag between a "credible" rumor and announced project. The days of putting up a construction wall and people not knowing what's going up until the grand opening (OK I"m exaggerating a little) is ancient history. People now use the internet to check on construction permits.

Originally Posted by KateB

I absolutely agree. I posted something months back that I have heard from relatives who live in TN about disney buying land near Dollywood and I was ripped apart. It made it so that I didn't really care to post again (until now).

There are at least 2 "rumors" which come up with some regularity and which have no basis in fact. Disney buying up land in XXX and monorail expansion are the two biggies. People shouldn't "rip you apart" but those rumors have been "beaten to death". With some regularity a poster starts a thread saying a bus driver or CM saw secret plans for monorail expansion. A friend knows a realtor who knows someone who sold Disney a huge plot of land near XXXX.

Of course there is the exception that makes the rule. Disney did buy (lease?) land in National Harbor for a hotel (maybe DVC). They decided against it and got rid of the land.

You want a question for discussion. Assume light rail makes sense for some resorts. Not a $$$ monorail but rail with some elevated sections over roadways. Now assume the numbers only support it for resorts which have a lot of guests near a central stop. In other words now matter how you crunch the numbers it only makes sense for POP/AoA and possibly the Allstars. Is there any way Disney could possibly put light rail in place for value resorts but skip the moderate and resorts like WL and AKL? Probably not.

edited to add. My memory is the old days were filled with discussions regarding the "bad show" when CM start to vacuum the streets before guests leave the park.

[skier_pete]

I think people are being too sensative about being "ripped apart". This is a news/rumors board. If you post a rumor people are either going to comment on (A) the likelyhood of the rumor being true or (B) what they think of the rumor.

Either way, no one should take what is being said personally, you are just stating a rumor or a theory you might have, no matter what it is its probably going to be picked apart. Don't take it personally, it's the internet.

Personally, I think this section "Rumors and News" has ALWAYS been a little thin on content. Unfortunately, there aren't a ton of rumors that are floating around about the parks, and those that are often pop up for years and years. (i.e. Haven't we been talking about a Monster's Inc coaster in DHS for at least SIX years.) Plus as PP said, a lot of NEWS items get posted on the regular Theme Parks forum.

Oh well, I still come here a couple times a week hoping for something exciting to discuss.

[YoHo]

Yo!


Had to figure out which email this account was attached to.


This place used to be even meaner I think. Or at least, we were strident.

And it was rarely the rumors themselves that got this place hopping. It was the discussions of the why. The philosophy. What Disney parks should be vs. what Eisner and Iger turned them into.

As for why I don't post.

3 reasons.
1: AV left pretty much all of internet Disneydom and he actually knew what he was talking about.

2: I moved away from SoCal and so DL wasn't as easy to get to.

3: WDW has basically gone down hill from a management perspective, but DL has been...OK. We could sit here and discuss whether Carsland is the right move or any number of other changes, but the decay of DLR as themeparks stopped. Lasseter and TDA have done a good job. As good a job as they can.

We can discuss the employee parking and how they're going to start charging for the Christmas stuff and how their AP program is Schizoid.
And any other Lutz rumors we'd care to discuss, but in the end, DL is doing pretty decent and WDW isn't and neither shows any indication of really being a Walt place anymore.

I think without AV who relished educating people about the way the world worked before and during Eisner, there isn't as strong an ability anymore to have those discussions.

We can try, but I wasn't there, I can just relate what people who were there tell me.

[mbrittb00]

Originally Posted by skier_pete

I think people are being too sensative about being "ripped apart". This is a news/rumors board. If you post a rumor people are either going to comment on (A) the likelyhood of the rumor being true or (B) what they think of the rumor.

Either way, no one should take what is being said personally, you are just stating a rumor or a theory you might have, no matter what it is its probably going to be picked apart. Don't take it personally, it's the internet.

Personally, I think this section "Rumors and News" has ALWAYS been a little thin on content. Unfortunately, there aren't a ton of rumors that are floating around about the parks, and those that are often pop up for years and years. (i.e. Haven't we been talking about a Monster's Inc coaster in DHS for at least SIX years.) Plus as PP said, a lot of NEWS items get posted on the regular Theme Parks forum.

Oh well, I still come here a couple times a week hoping for something exciting to discuss.

A good debate is always healthy, but I have seen many cases where there have been comments along the lines of "that's just stupid" or "that's the dummest thing I've ever herd". When the "discussion" devloves to that point, then it has become a personal attack.

[vandy]

Originally Posted by mbrittb00

A good debate is always healthy, but I have seen many cases where there have been comments along the lines of "that's just stupid" or "that's the dummest thing I've ever herd". When the "discussion" devloves to that point, then it has become a personal attack.

And a lot of times they ask the OP "who or what is your source" and they rip the OP if they can't produce the name of a high-ranking Disney insider. In my business I know more about what is really going to happen from the sideline people than I hear from the main sources and yes, it usually does end up being true!

[DisneyKidds]

Originally Posted by DVC-Landbaron

Thanks!!!

It's nice to be remembered. And that was like ten years ago. You have a good memory. But you forgot Walt's Frozen Head and the one and only Disney-guru: Another Voice!!

Ah! The good old days!!! There was a time when it was only me and Yoho on this board. No other members at all. Conversations took weeks. And then the pixie dust crowd took over and... Anyway, thanks again!!

***sniff***

[mbrittb00]

Originally Posted by DVC-Landbaron

Thanks!!!

It's nice to be remembered. And that was like ten years ago. You have a good memory. But you forgot Walt's Frozen Head and the one and only Disney-guru: Another Voice!!

Ah! The good old days!!! There was a time when it was only me and Yoho on this board. No other members at all. Conversations took weeks. And then the pixie dust crowd took over and... Anyway, thanks again!!

Yeah, the drunk on the Disney Kool-aid, Disney can do no wrong crowd, does often ruin a bunch of threads.

[mrsR123]

Nice posts, Lewis and YoHo.

Sorry Kidds, no disrespect. Didn't mean to leave out Hopemax or Gcurling, either... or anyone else

[raidermatt]

Memories.....

[DisneyKidds]

Originally Posted by mrsR123

Nice posts, Lewis and YoHo.

Sorry Kidds, no disrespect. Didn't mean to leave out Hopemax or Gcurling, either... or anyone else

No worries....no disrespect felt. A ***sniff*** for the passing of the good 'ole days. 'Nuff said.

[DVC-Landbaron]

Mr. Kidds!!!

Well met!! How goes it with you? And if I haven't said it before, I'll say it now, I LOVE your tag line!!

PS: I am certainly NOT wrong about 1972 prices... Care to start a thread?!!!

[hopemax]

Originally Posted by mrsR123

Nice posts, Lewis and YoHo.

Sorry Kidds, no disrespect. Didn't mean to leave out Hopemax or Gcurling, either... or anyone else

It's okay, no one usually remembers me, because I was the reasonable one. :D Not like the manhood contests certain other members (you know I love all of you guys, 'cept one) would engage in.

[Peter Pirate 2]

Originally Posted by DVC-Landbaron

Mr. Kidds!!!

Well met!! How goes it with you? And if I haven't said it before, I'll say it now, I LOVE your tag line!!

PS: I am certainly NOT wrong about 1972 prices... Care to start a thread?!!!

And I love your tag line Mr. DVC.

[hopemax]

And for all the people who joined post-2006ish, and have absolutely no idea of what's going on and who are all these random posters... here's a blast from the past

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=58576

and a slightly later one

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=159733

And a few greatest hits (I went back to the oldest posts, and pulled a few with a lot of posts - so they probably aren't the best posts). And if you feel like you are missing part of the conversation, you might be. One of the regulars decided to have the biggest DIS YAGE ever...he asked for all his posts to be deleted (but some may have been quoted).

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=53549
http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=107356
http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=116917
http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=128706
http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=155151
http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=157260

Okay, that's probably enough!

Edit, I lied! I went forward a little forward in time and started running into the threads where we were supposed to put DEBATE in the thread title, because we were so BAD that our "conversations" would terrify the more delicate members of the DIS!

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=208000
http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=218333
http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=245200
http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=253064
http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=271825