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wdw4rfam · 01-01-2013, 10:59 AM

I'd be happy with QS, then you can always pay the difference and get the DDP. I believe it would still be better than the 25% room discount we got at POR for this coming trip. There are 5 of us so the FD is still a better discount because 4 of us are "disney adults", and the room discount is the same if you have 2 or 5 people. So I'd be happy getting QS for moderate. Now if they drop discounts any lower...we may visit somewhere else. Like OP said, we save $XXX every month for our vacation every year, and the last 11 years have been Disney. But when we can no longer do the trip we want for that money- we will go offsite or someplace else finally. This coming April trip, is stretching it, being our most expensive yet and we used the promo that just came out for Visa member this past week got 25% and a slight discount on our tix.

Abharmagic · 01-01-2013, 11:18 AM

I think what it will do is more people will end up staying offsite, eating more offsite, and maybe only going to the parks for a few days- and *gasp* visiting OTHER parks too. That's us. The current offer for our dates stinks. Currently crunching the numbers for a 3 bedroom condo and only going to WDW Parks for 4 days instead of 9- the other days will be spent at Legoland, and Seaworld- kids too young to appreciate Universal... but, that most likely will be the trip after next with possibly no time at WDW at all. I hope WDW feels it in their bottom line. The only way to get WDW to listen and change is to stop giving them all your business IMO.

scrappinginontario · 01-01-2013, 11:27 AM

I would recommend people wait until the offer is out.

When we were at Disney last August I was able to book a bounce back offer with FD, staying at Pop Century. On the printed offer in the room it only showed moderate and deluxe resorts but when I called, Value resorts were available with the QSDP. For a fee I was able to upgrade from the QSDP to the Basic Dining Plan.

A friend was at Disney in November and she was able to book the same.

So....there have at least been some FD offers made for Value resorts with free QSDP. Hopefully that bodes well for an upcoming offer.

Time will tell.....

jimjenkids · 01-01-2013, 11:28 AM

this was our first experience with QSFD and POP(value) not to forget, that we also changed our dates by 2 days to get the FD-we go over xmas due to kids' school sports. We have done the all star resorts when the kids were little. I do have to say that our trip in 2010 was at CBR-much more my style-love the moderate resorts.
we are tossing around a moderate for our next trip and we were also hoping for a FD(although if it were for QS we would be happier). I dont have an issue with the dining IF it is free-if I were to have to pay for it, may opt out-way too much food and we seemed to waste A LOT! hoping for Dec '13 but if not, we will for sure be there Dec '14!

davedmaine · 01-01-2013, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by tink1953

Yes and have you ever looked at what they own??

http://www.cjr.org/resources/?c=disney

Why not make the parks afforable like Walt wanted??

They are affordable to many; hence the near record crowds this year.

davedmaine · 01-01-2013, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by tink1953

I just hope they reconsider putting millions into Avatar land....

It's not like if they decide not to they'll make the character buffets cheaper

Blessed_wth_Triplets · 01-01-2013, 12:24 PM

Am I the only one that thinks that is AWFUL of Disney to offer NOTHING for the Values?!? Especially when I would be paying over $300 per night for. Suite at AoA( at least that WAS the plan)?!?! Time to start looking off site....

Eliza32 · 01-01-2013, 12:39 PM

Not had anything for the values in the UK for a long time (2007 I think)

aaarcher86 · 01-01-2013, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Blessed_wth_Triplets

Am I the only one that thinks that is AWFUL of Disney to offer NOTHING for the Values?!? Especially when I would be paying over $300 per night for. Suite at AoA( at least that WAS the plan)?!?! Time to start looking off site....

I don't look at the suites that way. You are getting a 1 bedroom type setup for a lot less than you'd be paying for it at the deluxe level. You could get 2 rooms for less than the suite if you wanted.

It's a nice option for larger families who can't afford to upgrade that extremely. A value is a value though - you know it's a value suite going into it, IMO.

cjsm&d · 01-01-2013, 01:06 PM

I can see why they are doing this. People are just not BUYING the dining plan like they used to, because it is not really a great value anymore for most folks. (I know it works for foodies)

I think the dining plans will be overhauled majorly moving forward with elimination maybe even possible. (Maybe with some TIW like deal attached to packages)

cjsm&d · 01-01-2013, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Blessed_wth_Triplets

Am I the only one that thinks that is AWFUL of Disney to offer NOTHING for the Values?!? Especially when I would be paying over $300 per night for. Suite at AoA( at least that WAS the plan)?!?! Time to start looking off site....

No way I'd pay $300 for a "suite" at a value anyway.

Srbright · 01-01-2013, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Blessed_wth_Triplets

Am I the only one that thinks that is AWFUL of Disney to offer NOTHING for the Values?!?.

Quite Possibly

Stacy

aaarcher86 · 01-01-2013, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by scrappinginontario

I would recommend people wait until the offer is out.

When we were at Disney last August I was able to book a bounce back offer with FD, staying at Pop Century. On the printed offer in the room it only showed moderate and deluxe resorts but when I called, Value resorts were available with the QSDP. For a fee I was able to upgrade from the QSDP to the Basic Dining Plan.

A friend was at Disney in November and she was able to book the same.

So....there have at least been some FD offers made for Value resorts with free QSDP. Hopefully that bodes well for an upcoming offer.

Time will tell.....

A UK'er on the restaurant boards said this offer has rolled out on the UK site?

disneyfantotheend · 01-01-2013, 01:51 PM

If this would come out for November, I would be happy with it or the SPD. I just pray the most recent discount isn't the one offered for November. That one would barely save us anything. I do hate to see this happen for so many who struggle to go on their once in a lifetime trip or their once every several years trips. I do understand those of you who go 2 or more times a year are not bothered by this. If you can afford to go that often chances are you can afford to pay more. Have some empathy for those who can't afford it instead of giving them the Disney is a business speech!

saskdw · 01-01-2013, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by danny25

It SEEMS (only that,seems, we must wait things may change) that the next FD offer will be a litle different from last years promotions, moderates and the luxes will get QSDP and nothing

for values, I see clouds in the horizon

, sorry for that, and let´s celebrate the New Year with our beloved ones. The most magical and happy new year for all of you

I see a lot of empty rooms at WDW on the horizon!!

01-01-2013, 10:59 AM	#46
wdw4rfam DIS Veteran Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: N.E. Ohio Posts: 1,136	I'd be happy with QS, then you can always pay the difference and get the DDP. I believe it would still be better than the 25% room discount we got at POR for this coming trip. There are 5 of us so the FD is still a better discount because 4 of us are "disney adults", and the room discount is the same if you have 2 or 5 people. So I'd be happy getting QS for moderate. Now if they drop discounts any lower...we may visit somewhere else. Like OP said, we save $XXX every month for our vacation every year, and the last 11 years have been Disney. But when we can no longer do the trip we want for that money- we will go offsite or someplace else finally. This coming April trip, is stretching it, being our most expensive yet and we used the promo that just came out for Visa member this past week got 25% and a slight discount on our tix. __________________ 2013-POR 12 days2012- POR- 9 days2011- All Star Music-10 days 2010- POFQ- 10 days 2009- All Star Movies- 8 days 2008- All Star Movies- 8 days 2006- Pop Cent.- 7 days AllStar Movies 7 days 2004-Fl Resident....too many to list 2003-Grosvenor 2002- All star movies- 5 days

01-01-2013, 11:18 AM	#47
Abharmagic DIS Veteran Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 869	I think what it will do is more people will end up staying offsite, eating more offsite, and maybe only going to the parks for a few days- and gasp visiting OTHER parks too. That's us. The current offer for our dates stinks. Currently crunching the numbers for a 3 bedroom condo and only going to WDW Parks for 4 days instead of 9- the other days will be spent at Legoland, and Seaworld- kids too young to appreciate Universal... but, that most likely will be the trip after next with possibly no time at WDW at all. I hope WDW feels it in their bottom line. The only way to get WDW to listen and change is to stop giving them all your business IMO. __________________ Abharmagic (39); mommy to DD (8) and DS(6) Loving Wife to Dh (38) 20 Trips prior to becoming a mommy Family trips Oct 2007 and Nov 2008 Next Trip-- Birthdays at Coronado Springs Resort April 2013-- Can't Wait!

01-01-2013, 11:27 AM	#48
scrappinginontario DIS Veteran Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 754	I would recommend people wait until the offer is out. When we were at Disney last August I was able to book a bounce back offer with FD, staying at Pop Century. On the printed offer in the room it only showed moderate and deluxe resorts but when I called, Value resorts were available with the QSDP. For a fee I was able to upgrade from the QSDP to the Basic Dining Plan. A friend was at Disney in November and she was able to book the same. So....there have at least been some FD offers made for Value resorts with free QSDP. Hopefully that bodes well for an upcoming offer. Time will tell..... __________________ Mommy DD4 Amazing Trips with DD: Apr 2010 (3 days), Nov 2010 (2 days with grandparents), Aug 2011 (8 days with DN and Nana), Nov 2011 (2 days with grandparents), Aug 2012 (10 awesome days with just the 2 of us!), Nov 2012 (2 days AoA LM with grandparents and DN)

01-01-2013, 11:28 AM	#49
jimjenkids Mouseketeer Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: small town Iowa Posts: 265	this was our first experience with QSFD and POP(value) not to forget, that we also changed our dates by 2 days to get the FD-we go over xmas due to kids' school sports. We have done the all star resorts when the kids were little. I do have to say that our trip in 2010 was at CBR-much more my style-love the moderate resorts. we are tossing around a moderate for our next trip and we were also hoping for a FD(although if it were for QS we would be happier). I dont have an issue with the dining IF it is free-if I were to have to pay for it, may opt out-way too much food and we seemed to waste A LOT! hoping for Dec '13 but if not, we will for sure be there Dec '14! __________________ DM DD DS17 DS15 DD14 DD10 2012:xmas-Pop century, 2010:CBC, 2008:ASMovie, 2000:Movies, 1999: sports, 1995:POF, 1984:Polly

01-01-2013, 12:24 PM	#52
Blessed_wth_Triplets DIS Veteran Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,966	Am I the only one that thinks that is AWFUL of Disney to offer NOTHING for the Values?!? Especially when I would be paying over $300 per night for. Suite at AoA( at least that WAS the plan)?!?! Time to start looking off site.... __________________ Me DH . DS DS DS DD

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01-01-2013, 12:39 PM	#53
Eliza32 DIS Veteran Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Yorkshire, England Posts: 1,016	Not had anything for the values in the UK for a long time (2007 I think)

01-01-2013, 01:06 PM	#55
cjsm&d DIS Veteran Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Acton, ME Posts: 990	I can see why they are doing this. People are just not BUYING the dining plan like they used to, because it is not really a great value anymore for most folks. (I know it works for foodies) I think the dining plans will be overhauled majorly moving forward with elimination maybe even possible. (Maybe with some TIW like deal attached to packages) __________________ Disney Vets 1976 (mom only)- Poly, 1991- Port Orleans (Now POFQ), 1995- Outside, 1996- Yacht Club, 2004-Outside, 2006- AKL (4)/WL (5), 2008- Outside, 2009- POR, 2010- CSR, 2011- CSR/Swan, April 15, 2013- POR[/U][/B]

01-01-2013, 01:51 PM	#59
disneyfantotheend DIS Veteran Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,762	If this would come out for November, I would be happy with it or the SPD. I just pray the most recent discount isn't the one offered for November. That one would barely save us anything. I do hate to see this happen for so many who struggle to go on their once in a lifetime trip or their once every several years trips. I do understand those of you who go 2 or more times a year are not bothered by this. If you can afford to go that often chances are you can afford to pay more. Have some empathy for those who can't afford it instead of giving them the Disney is a business speech!

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