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Terapin · 11-12-2012, 02:16 PM

Got my paperwork for an add-on at BLT through DVC and noticed the form that has to be notorized said the notary was declaring to be licensed in XXX state that they filled in.

Called DVC to clarify the process and I was told that I'd have to go to the closest US embassy to get it notorized? Are you kidding me?!? Apparently a Canadian notary will not do.

Do you know what it would be like to walk into a US Embassy as a non-citizen and get this service. The lines are huge for non-Americans. For a notary.

DH is American and that may make things faster. But both of us will have to take the day off work and head to the closest embassy an hour away to get it notarized.

What a hassle.

JKMJ441724 · 11-12-2012, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Terapin

Got my paperwork for an add-on at BLT through DVC and noticed the form that has to be notorized said the notary was declaring to be licensed in XXX state that they filled in.

Called DVC to clarify the process and I was told that I'd have to go to the closest US embassy to get it notorized? Are you kidding me?!? Apparently a Canadian notary will not do.

Do you know what it would be like to walk into a US Embassy as a non-citizen and get this service. The lines are huge for non-Americans. For a notary.

DH is American and that may make things faster. But both of us will have to take the day off work and head to the closest embassy an hour away to get it notarized.

What a hassle.

Wow. What a headache. Here's some

drusba · 11-12-2012, 03:42 PM

That does not sound right. Call again and talk to someone else. You may need to get it notarized but I am unaware of any requirement that the notary be from the US, thus requiring you to go to the US Embassy.

sechelt · 11-12-2012, 05:12 PM

Unfortunately, this is true. We sent our add-on documents back and they were rejected because we used a Canadian notary. It was a bit inconvenient but we made an appointment with a notary in the U.S., about 1.5 hours away, and turned it into a road trip.

disneynutz · 11-12-2012, 06:09 PM

Is the same true for a resale purchase?

Could you wait and do the add on during your next WDW vacation and sign at the sales center?

Bill

sechelt · 11-12-2012, 07:09 PM

My original resale was easy, peasy. It was only when I did an add-on directly with Disney that I needed the American notary. The only reason I went direct is because we own at VGC and small contracts are almost non-existent.

M4travels · 11-12-2012, 07:25 PM

Yup, living down here in Mexico we have had to have our signatures notarized by the US consular agent when we did some selling. NOT an inexpensive proposition. And the rates are set by the US government, $50 per document! (and they've gone up since.....)

If you are able to hold off until you get to the states, that makes it much more bearable!

Michael

M4travels · 11-12-2012, 07:57 PM

Darn, double postings....

bumbershoot · 11-13-2012, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by M4travels

Yup, living down here in Mexico we have had to have our signatures notarized by the US consular agent when we did some selling. NOT an inexpensive proposition. And the rates are set by the US government, $50 per document! (and they've gone up since.....)

Wow, Michael, that's not cheap! (hi! by the way)

Lizard Valley · 11-13-2012, 09:28 AM

I just sent in closing documents for 2 resale contracts, 2 different brokers, 2 different title/closing companies. Neither required a notarized signature. I received them via e-mail, I printed, signed, and faxed back. Super easy.

Sellers need their contracts signed by a US notary though, and that can be a bit difficult if you don't live in the US. As a Canadian, just keep that in mind if you ever decide to sell. If you are close enough to a border, notaries are easy to find there. Not so easy (or cheap) if the seller lives on a different continent.

A neighbour of mine (who is actually American) was renegotiating her US mortgage, and she was quoted 50$ per signature at the US embassy. Their bank required her and her husband to sign 4 different documents, so a total of 8 signatures = 400$. They decided to drive the 30 min's into NY state, and paid 2$/signature.

bcarpenter · 11-18-2012, 05:53 PM

Hi. Thanks for this thread. Been lurking for over a year & looking into DVC but we're in Australia. To buy resale DVC points, will we need notarized signatures, and if so, does this need to be in a US embassy or will a local lawyer do?

The local lawyer has previously notarized documents when we migrated to Canada, so if he was okay for the Canadian government, then I'm thinking he'll probably be okay for the US requirement?

disneynutz · 11-18-2012, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by bcarpenter

Hi. Thanks for this thread. Been lurking for over a year & looking into DVC but we're in Australia. To buy resale DVC points, will we need notarized signatures, and if so, does this need to be in a US embassy or will a local lawyer do?

The local lawyer has previously notarized documents when we migrated to Canada, so if he was okay for the Canadian government, then I'm thinking he'll probably be okay for the US requirement?

The laws are different for Disney who is a Timeshare developer verses a resale Broker who is/should be a licensed Realtor.

You should contact the company that you are buying from to see what laws/requirements are applicable.

Bill

Lizard Valley · 11-18-2012, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by bcarpenter

Hi. Thanks for this thread. Been lurking for over a year & looking into DVC but we're in Australia. To buy resale DVC points, will we need notarized signatures, and if so, does this need to be in a US embassy or will a local lawyer do?

The local lawyer has previously notarized documents when we migrated to Canada, so if he was okay for the Canadian government, then I'm thinking he'll probably be okay for the US requirement?

As I mentioned above, as far as I know, you don't need to have your documents signed by a notary if you're buying resale (I'm Canadian; I didn't). One of my contracts was from a seller in the UK, and their first set of documents did not require notarization. Closing documents: Their (seller's) closing documents will need the notarized signature; mine (buyer's) don't.

You should only need a notarized signature (by a US-recognized notary, hence the embassy) if and when you sell, or if you buy through Disney directly.

Terapin · 11-20-2012, 03:46 PM

Heard back from Member Services and they retracted their US notary requirement and confirmed that I can use a Canadian notary. Yay! Going to get it done this week and signed, sealed and delivered!

M4travels · 11-20-2012, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Terapin

Heard back from Member Services and they retracted their US notary requirement and confirmed that I can use a Canadian notary. Yay! Going to get it done this week and signed, sealed and delivered!

That is great news! Will definitely keep this info for the unlikely event we'll need to sell while we're living out of the U.S.

Thanks for sharing the news.

Michael

11-12-2012, 02:16 PM	#1
Terapin DIS Veteran Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,528	Go to an Embassy?!? Got my paperwork for an add-on at BLT through DVC and noticed the form that has to be notorized said the notary was declaring to be licensed in XXX state that they filled in. Called DVC to clarify the process and I was told that I'd have to go to the closest US embassy to get it notorized? Are you kidding me?!? Apparently a Canadian notary will not do. Do you know what it would be like to walk into a US Embassy as a non-citizen and get this service. The lines are huge for non-Americans. For a notary. DH is American and that may make things faster. But both of us will have to take the day off work and head to the closest embassy an hour away to get it notarized. What a hassle. __________________ My WISH Journal: http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=2761938 2014 Determined to do Dopey! BLT stay 2013 Aulani 2013 Doing Dumbo!! VGC stay 2013 Going Goofy!! BLT stay 2010 DVC Owner Villas at Grand Californian 2010 DVC Owner Bay Lake Tower 2012 DVC Owner Bay Lake Tower add-on!

11-12-2012, 03:42 PM	#3
drusba DIS Veteran Join Date: Aug 1999 Location: Chicago Posts: 8,927	That does not sound right. Call again and talk to someone else. You may need to get it notarized but I am unaware of any requirement that the notary be from the US, thus requiring you to go to the US Embassy. __________________ Everything has to have a beginning and an end ... but it is not necessary to have a purpose in between. Last edited by drusba; 11-12-2012 at 03:49 PM.

11-12-2012, 06:09 PM	#5
disneynutz Earning My Ears One At A Time Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: North Texas Posts: 14,299	Is the same true for a resale purchase? Could you wait and do the add on during your next WDW vacation and sign at the sales center? Bill __________________

11-12-2012, 07:25 PM	#7
M4travels DIS Veteran Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: San Miguel de Allende, Mexico Posts: 1,368	Yup, living down here in Mexico we have had to have our signatures notarized by the US consular agent when we did some selling. NOT an inexpensive proposition. And the rates are set by the US government, $50 per document! (and they've gone up since.....) If you are able to hold off until you get to the states, that makes it much more bearable! Michael __________________ 33 is my favorite number!

11-12-2012, 07:57 PM	#8
M4travels DIS Veteran Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: San Miguel de Allende, Mexico Posts: 1,368	Darn, double postings.... __________________ 33 is my favorite number!

11-12-2012, 05:12 PM	#4
sechelt Mouseketeer Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: West Coast of Canada Posts: 280	Unfortunately, this is true. We sent our add-on documents back and they were rejected because we used a Canadian notary. It was a bit inconvenient but we made an appointment with a notary in the U.S., about 1.5 hours away, and turned it into a road trip.

11-12-2012, 07:09 PM	#6
sechelt Mouseketeer Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: West Coast of Canada Posts: 280	My original resale was easy, peasy. It was only when I did an add-on directly with Disney that I needed the American notary. The only reason I went direct is because we own at VGC and small contracts are almost non-existent.

11-13-2012, 09:28 AM	#10
Lizard Valley Mouseketeer Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Montreal, CANADA Posts: 155	I just sent in closing documents for 2 resale contracts, 2 different brokers, 2 different title/closing companies. Neither required a notarized signature. I received them via e-mail, I printed, signed, and faxed back. Super easy. Sellers need their contracts signed by a US notary though, and that can be a bit difficult if you don't live in the US. As a Canadian, just keep that in mind if you ever decide to sell. If you are close enough to a border, notaries are easy to find there. Not so easy (or cheap) if the seller lives on a different continent. A neighbour of mine (who is actually American) was renegotiating her US mortgage, and she was quoted 50$ per signature at the US embassy. Their bank required her and her husband to sign 4 different documents, so a total of 8 signatures = 400$. They decided to drive the 30 min's into NY state, and paid 2$/signature.

11-18-2012, 05:53 PM	#11
bcarpenter Earning My Ears Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 11	Hi. Thanks for this thread. Been lurking for over a year & looking into DVC but we're in Australia. To buy resale DVC points, will we need notarized signatures, and if so, does this need to be in a US embassy or will a local lawyer do? The local lawyer has previously notarized documents when we migrated to Canada, so if he was okay for the Canadian government, then I'm thinking he'll probably be okay for the US requirement?

11-20-2012, 03:46 PM	#14
Terapin DIS Veteran Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,528	Heard back from Member Services and they retracted their US notary requirement and confirmed that I can use a Canadian notary. Yay! Going to get it done this week and signed, sealed and delivered! __________________ My WISH Journal: http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=2761938 2014 Determined to do Dopey! BLT stay 2013 Aulani 2013 Doing Dumbo!! VGC stay 2013 Going Goofy!! BLT stay 2010 DVC Owner Villas at Grand Californian 2010 DVC Owner Bay Lake Tower 2012 DVC Owner Bay Lake Tower add-on!

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