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Old 09-03-2012, 05:24 PM   #31
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Unfortunately there are many sites out there. I have posted on the FB page referenced here (I just checked and my comments are deleted!), and also on one called DANI'S DECADENT DEALS that is promoting the halfprice site. As we know, there are people who are willing to walk on the edge to save a few bucks (and I know it can be a substantial amount if you have a family to buy for). After all, don't most of us look for ways to save money to feed our Disney fix?

I would like to hear that Disney is ID checking most people going thru the gates - a little of that would slow down their business alot. If tickets are truly non-transferable then Disney needs to be the enforcement.
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Old 09-03-2012, 05:33 PM   #32
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Looks like they a busy as beavers deleting all posts that are negative to their little business.......
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Old 09-03-2012, 05:38 PM   #33
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I just checked the FB and everyone's comments have been deleted. Somehow mine on the park hopper offer managed to make it through but we should keep posting. Just as Mel suggested, at the very least, it irritates them and hopefully people will see it before they delete them. We should also report them as being a scam.
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Old 09-03-2012, 06:07 PM   #34
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As someone who loved the longer length tickets and was personally told on the phone by a CM the reason they stopped selling them was due to fraud, this company makes me insane!! I also emailed the information on to Disney. Not sure what they can do or if they can do anything about it, but I thought it was worth a try!

Here's too wishing they go away!
Great idea Rosie!!! As the "business" seems to be deleting all our comments about the truth, going directly to Disney is a great idea. I know that Disney can't do anything directly about them, but it will let them know that they should keep up checking IDs and requiring people to sign the back of their tickets. Maybe add in a comment about adding photos to passes or utilizing WDW's fingerprint scanners.

Don't give up writing comments and reporting to FB that they are scamming consumers.
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Old 09-03-2012, 06:16 PM   #35
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Unfortunately there are many sites out there. I have posted on the FB page referenced here (I just checked and my comments are deleted!), and also on one called DANI'S DECADENT DEALS that is promoting the halfprice site. As we know, there are people who are willing to walk on the edge to save a few bucks (and I know it can be a substantial amount if you have a family to buy for). After all, don't most of us look for ways to save money to feed our Disney fix?

I would like to hear that Disney is ID checking most people going thru the gates - a little of that would slow down their business alot. If tickets are truly non-transferable then Disney needs to be the enforcement.
Thanks Maleficent for posting another site! I know that we are essentially trying to stop the tide from coming in but if our comments are seen by at least one person who realizes what's going on and doesn't buy from them, then I feel like we have done well. I understand wanting to save a few bucks here and there but I can't imagine going to the turnstiles with these tickets, having them confiscated, and staring at my kids' faces when I explain that we can't get in.

ITA agree that Disney needs to be the enforcer in this battle. I think Rosie's idea of emailing Disney with these "companies'" FB page's and explaining that they need to keep up with the checking of IDs, signing names on the tickets, and questioning suspicious ticket issues, in order to put a stop to this. And as I suggested above, also throw in the suggestion of finding a more permanent solution to put a stop to this, like WDW's fingerprint scanners.

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Looks like they a busy as beavers deleting all posts that are negative to their little business.......
LOL! I just saw all of the comments we posted have "mysteriously" disappeared. Keep it up. It will at least irritate them to no end and we may be able to save some innocent people from making a horrible mistake.
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Old 09-03-2012, 06:30 PM   #36
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If what they're doing isn't illegal, I imagine Disney can do nothing except make it harder for them to succeed by changing their ticketing practices.

I bought a beautiful but homemade Fantasmic DVD off ebay and asked the seller later how come Disney didn't make him remove the sale. He said they were fine with it, since they don't offer their own DVD of the show. Not sure if it's true but he was convincing and had been selling them for years. Maybe Disney didn't used to care about the 'ticket sharing', figuring it's better to have any body in the park that day (buying food, etc.) than no body. I doubt it.
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Old 09-03-2012, 06:33 PM   #37
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ITA!!!! Maybe you could post some of the other pages? (Not sure if that is against DIS policy or not). I just found out about this one because of this thread and my college friend claiming the offer. Its wrong what they are doing and we have the opportunity to try to do something about it even if it is just spreading the truth so other people won't get taken in. At least until TDA finds an overarching solution that puts a stop to this.
I just did a search for Disneyland Tickets and a bunch came up. I also googled it and found more.
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Old 09-03-2012, 06:36 PM   #38
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I have reported the page to Facebook as a scam. Even if it is not illegal in Cali, if it is against Disney's terms of use, it is still not allowed.

What I don't get is, if this really is an issue at Disneyland, why don't they install reasonable measures against this fraud such as fingerprint scanners or photographs on the tickets? At least checking ID is a good start!
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They can delete and I can keep posting!! Yes, please encourange Disney to step up the ticket checking and ID'ing. Also, to make some progress such as fingerprint scanners...it can only help!
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Old 09-03-2012, 06:48 PM   #40
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I am having more fun with this than I should admit.......

They have now blocked me from their facebook page - I think I will use my daughter's page to go back in
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Yep I can see the page but can no longer post!
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Old 09-03-2012, 07:06 PM   #42
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Didn't block me...I just posted again....
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Old 09-03-2012, 07:21 PM   #43
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I just did a search for Disneyland Tickets and a bunch came up. I also googled it and found more.
Thanks! I will do the same!


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I have reported the page to Facebook as a scam. Even if it is not illegal in Cali, if it is against Disney's terms of use, it is still not allowed.

What I don't get is, if this really is an issue at Disneyland, why don't they install reasonable measures against this fraud such as fingerprint scanners or photographs on the tickets? At least checking ID is a good start!
Wonderful!!!! Keep up reporting the page to Facebook as a scam. If enough people do it, maybe Facebook will put a stop to them. Especially if you have been kicked off from posting on the page like I have.

It is an issue and there have been reports on the DIS that Disney is starting to check for IDs and making people sign the back of the tickets - it is a great start. However the permanent way to stop these sites comes from doing something like fingerprint scanners. To that end, I would suggest we start emailing Disney and suggesting the scanners or photographs. I just did and sent them a link to this thread so they understand we are trying our best to get the word out but they need to be the enforcer and the leader for change. I also mentioned that if they did this, they would be able to once again offer 6+ day PH and think of all the money they can make with people staying more and spending more on food, hotels, and souvenirs. Always go with the money!



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They can delete and I can keep posting!! Yes, please encourange Disney to step up the ticket checking and ID'ing. Also, to make some progress such as fingerprint scanners...it can only help!
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Yep I can see the page but can no longer post!
Great job Rosie!!!! I just got kicked off from posting too but that won't stop me from reporting them to FB as a scam. I also did send an email to Disney explaining what we are doing, commending the CMs for their work, and encouraging them to get the fingerprint scanners up and going. Keep sending those emails to Disney. Just like with FB, the more we keep it up, maybe something will happen.


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They have now blocked me from their facebook page - I think I will use my daughter's page to go back in
LOL! Yep, I've been blocked too but I am still reporting them to FB. They have deleted everyone's comments that tell the truth including the one that I added when someone asked about possible Disney World tickets. Guess they want to keep people hanging in regards to Florida?

Also if you can, send an email to Disney. Explain what is going on and make the suggestion of providing a more permanent solution to just checking IDs. Appealing to the financial side of Disney can be a good thing.




I know that it doesn't seem like we are making any progress, but I think we are, especially if we are reporting them to FB and sending emails to Disney. Like I said above, we at the DIS hold consumer power (BlackJackDelta's thread on PVI) and hopefully we can convince Disney to put in a permanent solution. I hope that more people here on the DIS who haven't been kicked off the FB page already are able to keep posting until they too are kicked off, keeping reporting to FB, and sending emails to Disney.
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Okay, that was fast. They deleted my next post and now I am blocked,,,,
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Are you sure they're selling 'illegal' tickets? I clicked through to their 'buy now' site and a 2 day park hopper is $190, where it's $200 through Disney. I've bought tickets for WDW from local sellers before for a small discount, and it's above board.
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