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I'm a little behind on updating my stats. We've been on vacation at WDW since 9/29, and I'm sitting on our balcony here at HHI as I write this. I'll catch up once we get home on 10/14.
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Yearning to be @ WDW with my family............
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Earning My Ears
Join Date: Oct 2010
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Boardwalk eBay Resales
I saw where two BWV resales on eBay recently concluded. 100 points went for $5401 and 150 points went for $8095, each about $54 per point. The eBay listing numbers were 110586702240 and 180561501578 respectively. It will be interesting to see if they are ROFR'd.
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Just passed ROFR. Add on, OKW 150 points, Aug. UY, 140 available, 150 banked, $8,800 seller pays closing.
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Updated ROFR Data for October 2010
DVD continued to ROFR BCV deeds in October 2010, and at a slightly greater number than in previous months. According to the warranty deed information recorded with the Orange County Comptroller, the 4,275 BCV points were reacquired by DVD from $58 to $82 a point, with a weighted average price of $72.29 a point.
DVD also reacquired some BWV points in October but, as in other months, the vast majority of its ROFR activity is centered on BCV. Even though the base prices of BLT and SSR are suppose to increase soon, I doubt if we will see DVD actively ROFRing deeds for these resorts. I suspect DVD has far too many points for BLT and SSR in its inventory to reacquire more points. For brevity's sake, I modified my ROFR chart to display the last three calendar months and a summary for all ROFR activity since June 2010.
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Earning My Ears
Join Date: Jul 2008
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Just curious, do you know the price of the BWV ROFR?
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There were two BWV deeds reacquired by DVD in October. A 155-point contract was reacquired at $52.66/point, and a 170-point contract was reacquired at $55/point. The weighted average was $53.88/point.
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Thanks for all your work!!!
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Join Date: Mar 2009
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Bwv
I wonder why my 200 BWV points cleared at $50/pt? That was just in Sept.
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There are several factors that might come into play. Both BWV deeds that were reacquired by Disney in October were for the June UY; they may have been loaded with the full complement of 2009 and 2010; perhaps the closing costs that Disney had to pay was different. Or perhaps Disney reacquired the points as a precursor to a foreclosure activity. The data just gives us a glimpse of what is happening, but it doesn't explain why its happening.
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WOW ! Great work! The numbers make my head spin. I'm glad someone can organize it for the rest of us. I have been patiently waiting for a "good" small resale contract for BCV to materialize. I added on BVC points through Disney in Dec '09 and July '10. Just small amounts of points but paid more than I wanted to. I justified it in my mind that closing costs on a resale brought the price per point closer to what Disney was charging. (and I NEEDED to make a reservation for June "11
) Now, with the price increase for add ons, the difference is no longer justifiable. Looks like I could have been one of the recipients of those ROFRed points. This info will help as to what a "reasonable" offer may be in the future when that perfect resale appears!Thanks again for all your hard work!
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Updated ROFR Data for November 2010
Based on warranty deeds recorded with the Orange County Comptroller in November 2010, Disney reacquired 16 Beach Club Villa deeds representing 3,192 points. BCV was the only DVC resort at WDW that Disney reacquired points via the ROFR process during the month of November.
According to the Sale/Consideration entry posted by OCC on each deed, the 16 BCV deeds were reacquired at prices as low as $58.00/point to as high as $83.00/point. The weighted average for all 3,192 points was $76.72/point. By comparison, the weighted average prices per point for September and October 2010 were $71.67 and $72.29, respectively. This data is consistent with information collected by Donald is #1 on her thread tracking ROFR activity (see http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1960185). Individuals are reporting that BCV offers in the mid-$80s price range are passing ROFR, while offers at $80 and below are being ROFRed by Disney. Keep in mind that the ROFR process is not the only method by which Disney reacquires DVC points. There are far more points reacquired through the foreclosure process. For display purposes, I have modified my ROFR chart to display a summary for all ROFR activity since June 2010 and only the last three calendar months.
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Thank you! This data is awesome as always!
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So BCV represents 92.2% of all points that have been ROFRed in the last 6 months. I continue to be baffled as to what DVC is doing re BCV.
![]() Maybe there is just more demand for non DVC rooms at BCV.
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Based on deeds recorded at OCC beginning July 2010, Disney has ROFRed about 6,500 more points at BCV than it has sold. Even if allowances are made for the lag time between a sale or ROFR and its recordation at OCC, it appears Disney is taking back more BCV points than it is selling. In all likelihood, Disney knows it can recoup its buyback costs either by renting villas out for cash or by eventually selling the points. The 3,192 points ROFRed in November were bought for $244,900, exclusive of closing costs, MFs, and administrative overhead. If Disney resells them for $115/point, those 3,192 points will generate $367,080, less costs associated with selling those points. I also suspect that Disney knows these BCV won't remain in its unsold inventory for long, so its money won't be tied up for long.
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