Jon and Kate Plus 8 Official Thread - Part 5

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Originally Posted by kidshop

If I wasn't ok with who was watching my kids I:

1) wouldn't have left...I'd have hopped that fence and run up to get my kids. let Jon call the cops on me, not me on him!!

2)Put and end to questionable babysitters when we first saw pics of her coming out of the garage. There has to be a legal solution to who would be allowed to nanny/babysit where both parents agree.

There is NO proof that this girl is anything other than a babysitter. She is iffy, IMO and there is no way I would have let an issue of suitability go on this long. If Kate was worried about the welfare of the kids, this would have been addressed properly and in writing the minute it came up.

Aren't most nannies young girls?

I can't stress #1 above enough. If I was even remotely concerned about my kids I would not have left them, even if I got myself arrested.

Like I said, I would have stayed hell or high water...I would not have divorced when DD was little. I could not have stood it. I freely admit it.

I'm not really saying Jon did anything with this babysitter, after all, he says he is in love with Hailey. I just would not want her around my children. But I wouldn't want any woman mothering my child so good thing I didn't have 8 kids.

I doubt Kate was as concerned for their safety and just upset about the situation. I think if she was concerned for their safety she would not leave either. I think she is a mama bear like most moms.

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Do we have a part 6 yet? If not, I've started one when we hit the big 250:

http://www.disboards.com/showthread....0#post33166430

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Originally Posted by Disneynut5

I think this is the worst part of divorce - especially for someone as controlling as Kate. She can no longer control who enters her kids lives and has influence over them. Each parent makes those decisions for themselves and their values in this area might not match. It is sad... I feel for her but this is part of divorce. Jon can have whoever he wants watch the kids or be around them...he is the parent/decision maker when he is with them.

I think you've hit the nail right on the head with this post. For the first time in 10 years, Kate has NO control over what Jon does, and legally he can make decisions without her input.

Originally Posted by kidshop

I wish I had a a babysitter!! I can't hear the video over the kids in my house! I think he well, looked genuine anyway. I really can't blame him for talking sometimes, when Kate does hers so much more publicly and often (I know his interview was canceled). And he really doesn't trash Kate when he does.

I agree, but I think if he'd been reading our thread he'd have realized that he'd be better off saying nothing. He didn't have to say anything because the police had told Kate to leave, not him.

Originally Posted by mickey&minnie04

In PA the parents have to meet with a mediator before even going to a custody hearing. The parents meet together with a mediator ( a nuetral lawyer ) that does nothing but mediations then they try to work out an agreement. If nothing can be worked out then they are to proceed with a custody hearing witch can take months to have here in PA. I am from Berks county (where the Gosselin's live) and a co-worker of mine just went through a divorce in Berks courts and this is what he had to do. Then as far as the divorce goes if nothing can be agreed upon as far as splitting all the assets if the 2 sides can't agree then in 2 years the divorce is final reguardless of the parties. Now as far as the house would go....I wonder, since they say they bought if for the children and their lawyer actually bought it....who's names are on the deed....because your name does not have to be on the mortgage to be on the deed. This is the case with my brother and his wife ( also in Berks county ) , they are separated the mortagage is in his name, he pays it yet her name is on the deed with his and the cops say that she can come into the house at anytime and they can't do anything about it. I hope this long post makes sense!

Thanks for getting us on the same page here.

Originally Posted by DreaGirl

Well, I think that is a mistake on Kate's part. They have said many times that the house is where the kids live. When it is her time she has the kids at the house, when it is Jon's turn, he has the kids at the house. It is not Jon's problem that she has not secured a place to live when it is his time with the kids.

If I were in a similar arrangement I would not want my Ex at the house when it is my time. In Jon's case, he knows how controlling Kate is so I can see why he doesn't want her there.

Wasn't it reported last week that the kids were left with a babysitter while Kate was away and Jon was not at the house watching the other kids because it wasn't his day and he wasn't "allowed"? So, I guess what goes around comes around.

Jon comes and goes because that is the custody agreement, just like Kate comes and goes. It is not his fault that on her days she was doing interviews in NYC. That was her choice, she could have refused or done them on different days.

ITA! And from what I understand, he needed the babysitter while he was filming (interviews, I'm assuming)

Originally Posted by kidshop

Ok, but why the big scene now? Steph has been around a bit (2 weeks?). While weren't concerns already taken care of?

It doesn't sound to me like Jon did anything wrong, even in using this particular babysitter. Ideal? No, but if it really is an issue, then Kate better be in court today drawing up papers with a list of acceptable people (agreeable to both) to watch the kids.

I'm no fan of Jon, but I still think he comes off as genuine in the video. He speaks freely, seems honest and is not carefully selecting every word to make sure he doesn't slip up.

ITA! There must be more to this -- did Kate have a bad day and wanted to yell at somebody ie. Jon, was she considering Regis' idea of getting back together, did she get lost in the airport (sorry, had to add that one )?

Originally Posted by DreaGirl

Kate has been seen in that type of clothing all summer.



Me too. Maybe a mag bought them?



Yes, it is very sad. It looked like he was saying good-bye when Kate pulled up and walked over. He was giving everyone kisses. It also broke my heart to see the little girl standing there staring as he left.

You are such a smart cookie! You posted everything I was thinking.

Originally Posted by DMRick

But remember, he was interviewed before her.
Jn was interviewed here:
"In Touch Weekly about the reasoning behind their split (he says Kate wanted a career), Kate went on 'Today' to argue otherwise." Both of them should stop the interviews. I wonder if TLC has it in their contract that they have to give out so many of them.

That was the only interview he did about the divorce and it was after the People magazine article, which was done before the 45 day ban on talking, but came out after the divorce was announced.

Kate is still in the lead by 3 (interviews, that is) and the last People article was nasty