Two rumors IllumiNations and Monorail...what? - The DIS Discussion Forums

disneyworld1977 · 01-10-2013, 12:28 PM

First IllumiNations...will be changing to a World of Color type show, called either Showcase of Color, Nations of Color, or Worlds of Color....hmmm.....

But get this one. Which we know isn't going to happen. Expansion of the monorail, which some wish but we know the deal. But the new rumor for the monorail is that it will expand to including HS, more than likely through the future land of Star Wars. It won't be like Epcot, outside the gates up front, but act like a secondary entrance basically and the monorail would be fit to the them of Star Wars (whatever that mean, I don't know, they way it looks?)

Oh the crazy rumors!

Can't wait to see more!

smitch425 · 01-10-2013, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by disneyworld1977

First IllumiNations...will be changing to a World of Color type show, called either Showcase of Color, Nations of Color, or Worlds of Color....hmmm.....

But get this one. Which we know isn't going to happen. Expansion of the monorail, which some wish but we know the deal. But the new rumor for the monorail is that it will expand to including HS, more than likely through the future land of Star Wars. It won't be like Epcot, outside the gates up front, but act like a secondary entrance basically and the monorail would be fit to the them of Star Wars (whatever that mean, I don't know, they way it looks?)

Oh the crazy rumors!

Can't wait to see more!

Do you have a source for these rumors, or did they come from your own head?

disneyworld1977 · 01-10-2013, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by smitch425

Do you have a source for these rumors, or did they come from your own head?

Can the source be my head?

People were getting bored on the rumor board like that other thread said, so I had to search some out and get the pot stirring.

The Illuminations deal I could see maybe since it needs some changing, but the other one must have been from someone's head for sure, that is so out of left field.

DizCaptain · 01-10-2013, 12:45 PM

I love Illuminations, it never gets old for me so if it goes I'll be sad to see it leave, especially for a World of Color-eque show. That rumor I can see being plausible, now...

About the monorail, I don't even. Its a lovely idea you have there, but why would they outfit a second park entrance just for the monorail? Even more questionable how would they fit a monorail into a Star Wars theme while having it linked to the rest of the WDW line, it wouldn't work or look aesthetically pleasing. Finally, Disney only just acquired Star Wars, the possibility of a new attraction let alone a whole land is still a ways off....

I suggest more plausibility when crafting rumors, but some like the far-fetched approach, so I do salute you with these ideas despite the bit-o-zany thrown into the second one. Overall, I give it a 4.5/5

jagfanjosh3252 · 01-10-2013, 12:56 PM

So. No source. Just wishful thinking.

hopemax · 01-10-2013, 12:58 PM

Okay, while I agree that any monorail expansion is so completely out in so-far left field that it's on Mars... I wonder if the rumor comes from the phase 2 Harry Potter stuff happening down the road?

If Universal is really going to build a Hogwarts Express than runs between the 2 parts of WWoHP, then it is not completely unbelievable that somewhere at some point, someone at Disney was asked to imagine some way they could do something similar. Star Wars is the newest property, a monorail could be conceived to fit into one of the planets, so a few sketches, and there you go. But only in the bluest, of blue sky concept meeting; not to be confused with a real idea that may actually move forward.

Disco · 01-10-2013, 12:58 PM

I don't know...
If DHS is going to turn the Backlot into a Star Wars land, you're looking at a really long walk to get to it. Imagine going from Fantasmic to the back corner of where the Tram would drive you!
A monorail entrance at the other end of the park might help alleviate a very long and stretched out park.

diamondpixienc · 01-10-2013, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Disco

I don't know...
If DHS is going to turn the Backlot into a Star Wars land, you're looking at a really long walk to get to it. Imagine going from Fantasmic to the back corner of where the Tram would drive you!
A monorail entrance at the other end of the park might help alleviate a very long and stretched out park.

Good point

OKW Lover · 01-10-2013, 01:49 PM

I'd love to see a WoC type show at WDW. It would be difficult to do one at Epcot because it needs to be seen from all around. WoC in DCA is set up to be viewed from one perspective. Installing all the plumbing and pumps in the World Showcase Lagoon is a major undertaking.

Perhaps it would be better to replace Fantasmic?

rrushford · 01-10-2013, 02:16 PM

Yes. Replace Fantasmic and bring Illuminations back to the days when the show and music were tied to the World Showcase countries. The fireworks might not have been better, but the music definitely was. Please

sachilles · 01-14-2013, 08:30 AM

As to the monorail as we know it, I think it's unlikely to see an addition to it that is compatible with the rest of the system. They've just had poor luck, and my understanding is that they are a maintenance nightmare.
That being said, I'd think any new park expansion or new park would at least have some sort of rail incorporated in to it. They need not have the same monorail. They certainly could have a more traditional electric train system, similar to major metro subway systems. They can be on the surface, elevated or below the surface to meet whatever real estate demand. Fuel prices being what it is, there have to be some debates as to how efficient the current fleet of buses is even if they don't directly manage it. The trains themselves can be themed as necessary. You can market them as an extension of the "monorail" even though mechanically speaking they have more than one rail, as the average user really isn't going to care.
I would think in terms of theme. One could easily steer the train into a cleverly lighted tunnel, that gives the rider a feeling of warp speed.

wiigirl · 01-14-2013, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by jagfanjosh3252

So. No source. Just wishful thinking.

JudyS · 01-14-2013, 08:39 AM

For a long time (like, starting in 2007 or earlier), there was a rumor than Don Dorsey was working on a replacement for the current Illuminations show. The new show was supposed to be called "SkyDance." I haven't heard anything about it in a long time.

dcibrando · 01-14-2013, 12:16 PM

world of color couldn't go in world showcase because in order to install all of those fountains like at DCA, the lake would have to be drained and the water more clear

OKW Lover · 01-14-2013, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by dcibrando

world of color couldn't go in world showcase because in order to install all of those fountains like at DCA, the lake would have to be drained and the water more clear

Draining the lake should be a fairly minor engineering challenge, especially since Disney built it in the first place.

01-10-2013, 12:28 PM	#1
disneyworld1977 Mouseketeer Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: 988 miles away from WDW (TOO FAR!) Posts: 285	Two rumors IllumiNations and Monorail...what? First IllumiNations...will be changing to a World of Color type show, called either Showcase of Color, Nations of Color, or Worlds of Color....hmmm..... But get this one. Which we know isn't going to happen. Expansion of the monorail, which some wish but we know the deal. But the new rumor for the monorail is that it will expand to including HS, more than likely through the future land of Star Wars. It won't be like Epcot, outside the gates up front, but act like a secondary entrance basically and the monorail would be fit to the them of Star Wars (whatever that mean, I don't know, they way it looks?) Oh the crazy rumors! Can't wait to see more! __________________ DL Offsite - 2000, 2003, 2005, 2011, SEPT 2013!! *WDW* Offsite - 80's , 90's POP CENTURY - 2004, 2009 CORONADO SPRINGS - 2008 PORT ORLEANS (Riverside) - 2011 ALL STAR MOVIES - 2012 ME DW The rest of the family that may be going to DL

01-10-2013, 12:45 PM	#4
DizCaptain °o° Disney Enthusiast Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Maryland Posts: 567	I love Illuminations, it never gets old for me so if it goes I'll be sad to see it leave, especially for a World of Color-eque show. That rumor I can see being plausible, now... About the monorail, I don't even. Its a lovely idea you have there, but why would they outfit a second park entrance just for the monorail? Even more questionable how would they fit a monorail into a Star Wars theme while having it linked to the rest of the WDW line, it wouldn't work or look aesthetically pleasing. Finally, Disney only just acquired Star Wars, the possibility of a new attraction let alone a whole land is still a ways off.... I suggest more plausibility when crafting rumors, but some like the far-fetched approach, so I do salute you with these ideas despite the bit-o-zany thrown into the second one. Overall, I give it a 4.5/5 __________________ Dan "Laughter is America's most important export." -Walt Disney

01-10-2013, 12:56 PM	#5
jagfanjosh3252 #1 fan of the Jacksonville Jaguars Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Jacksonville, Fl Posts: 626	So. No source. Just wishful thinking. __________________ Go Jaguars!

01-10-2013, 12:58 PM	#6
hopemax Note to Self: Please remember to bring your brain with you this time Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 5,488	Okay, while I agree that any monorail expansion is so completely out in so-far left field that it's on Mars... I wonder if the rumor comes from the phase 2 Harry Potter stuff happening down the road? If Universal is really going to build a Hogwarts Express than runs between the 2 parts of WWoHP, then it is not completely unbelievable that somewhere at some point, someone at Disney was asked to imagine some way they could do something similar. Star Wars is the newest property, a monorail could be conceived to fit into one of the planets, so a few sketches, and there you go. But only in the bluest, of blue sky concept meeting; not to be confused with a real idea that may actually move forward. __________________ Hope

01-10-2013, 01:49 PM	#9
OKW Lover Yes, we love Old Key West Connoisseur of the fine things in life, and has the time to enjoy them (Just ask his wife) Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Plymouth, MA Posts: 17,339	I'd love to see a WoC type show at WDW. It would be difficult to do one at Epcot because it needs to be seen from all around. WoC in DCA is set up to be viewed from one perspective. Installing all the plumbing and pumps in the World Showcase Lagoon is a major undertaking. Perhaps it would be better to replace Fantasmic? __________________ Jeff

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01-10-2013, 12:58 PM	#7
Disco Hail Eris! Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Nevada Posts: 688	I don't know... If DHS is going to turn the Backlot into a Star Wars land, you're looking at a really long walk to get to it. Imagine going from Fantasmic to the back corner of where the Tram would drive you! A monorail entrance at the other end of the park might help alleviate a very long and stretched out park.

01-10-2013, 02:16 PM	#10
rrushford Earning My Ears Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 16	Yes. Replace Fantasmic and bring Illuminations back to the days when the show and music were tied to the World Showcase countries. The fireworks might not have been better, but the music definitely was. Please

01-14-2013, 08:30 AM	#11
sachilles Mouseketeer Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Waitsfield VT Posts: 122	As to the monorail as we know it, I think it's unlikely to see an addition to it that is compatible with the rest of the system. They've just had poor luck, and my understanding is that they are a maintenance nightmare. That being said, I'd think any new park expansion or new park would at least have some sort of rail incorporated in to it. They need not have the same monorail. They certainly could have a more traditional electric train system, similar to major metro subway systems. They can be on the surface, elevated or below the surface to meet whatever real estate demand. Fuel prices being what it is, there have to be some debates as to how efficient the current fleet of buses is even if they don't directly manage it. The trains themselves can be themed as necessary. You can market them as an extension of the "monorail" even though mechanically speaking they have more than one rail, as the average user really isn't going to care. I would think in terms of theme. One could easily steer the train into a cleverly lighted tunnel, that gives the rider a feeling of warp speed.

01-14-2013, 08:39 AM	#13
JudyS Disney Lover, DVC Member, and Timeshare Fan! Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Ann Arbor Posts: 1,021	For a long time (like, starting in 2007 or earlier), there was a rumor than Don Dorsey was working on a replacement for the current Illuminations show. The new show was supposed to be called "SkyDance." I haven't heard anything about it in a long time.

01-14-2013, 12:16 PM	#14
dcibrando DIS Veteran Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 867	world of color couldn't go in world showcase because in order to install all of those fountains like at DCA, the lake would have to be drained and the water more clear

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