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Old 06-22-2014, 10:51 AM   #1
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? about First Aid services

I am taking my 23 yo daughter in September. She has epilepsy that is fairly well controlled, we do not need special accommodations for lines, etc. My one concern is that she at times feels pre-seizurey (her term!) and when that happens she does need to get to a place she can lay down and rest quickly or she is likely to have a full blown seizure.

If this occurs, is there first aid available that could take her to a place she could rest before she seizes? Perhaps a CM can call and they could bring a golf cart to take her to first aid where she can lay until it passes, or she seizes and recovers? I will be with her at all times.

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Old 06-22-2014, 11:04 AM   #2
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You could absolutely go to first aid to rest. I've never seen a golf cart in the parks. I'm not sure that would be an option. I'd make sure you know where they are on a map in conjunction to your location so you can get to them quickly on your own.
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Old 06-22-2014, 11:08 AM   #3
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I've never seen a golf cart transporting a guest. My guess is that the most they will provide is a manual wheelchair, and I don't know how quickly it will get there
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Old 06-22-2014, 11:17 AM   #4
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As others have said, I have not seen or heard of a way for them to transport you. I think you would need to get there under your own power.
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Old 06-22-2014, 11:22 AM   #5
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The cast members can have a wheelchair sent over and take her to first aide. They offered it to me when I had an allergic reaction but declined. They did take a lady to first aide in a wheelchair from the parade area when overheated.
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Old 06-22-2014, 11:44 AM   #6
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Ok thank you. It may be one of those that she just has to lay down right in the middle of the line :/ Oh well, it is Disney, we will have a wonderful time and do whatever we need to do! Thank you
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Old 06-22-2014, 01:45 PM   #7
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Ok thank you. It may be one of those that she just has to lay down right in the middle of the line :/ Oh well, it is Disney, we will have a wonderful time and do whatever we need to do! Thank you
A wheelchair won't work to get her to First Aid?
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Old 06-22-2014, 03:01 PM   #8
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A wheelchair won't work to get her to First Aid?
A wheelchair will not get her there quickly. I have timed it in the parks and On average a wheelchair will take approximately 35% longer to get from point A to Point B than walking. An ECV is about 25% longer.

I would not recommend laying down in line, she will get trampled, which is sad, but true. If you are not close to first aid, ask the nearest CM what the best option is, there may be somewhere that would at least be safe to lay down at.

By the way, I would not recommend grassy areas, as they are often used as service animal relief areas and I wouldn't want her to lay in that.

This is one of those cases where DLR would actually be a much better choice, as the parks are smaller and you can get to first aid substantially faster.
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Old 06-22-2014, 03:17 PM   #9
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If she lays down in line or anywhere else that people need to walk she will be told to move. If she can not then they will call the EMTs. My son has epilepsy and he can sometimes tell that a seizure is coming. It may be helpful to have a wheelchair with you, that way she can sit an d rest as needed and not over do it. Also have her to drink through out the day even if she does not feel thirsty and set a timer on your phone or something else you will have with you so that she can stay on her medication schedule, don't forget to factor in time difference ( but I assume you already know those things).
If she can make it to first aid then they will have her sign in and they will show her to a room where she can take a nap or rest for a while. They can also store medication.
Doe she have any known triggers? For my son getting hot or being tired can cause him seize. We try to take frequent breaks so that he can rest, we also bring a wheelchair because he has joint issues, but it has helped with this as well. We try to alternate rides with shows so that he has some down time as well.
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A wheelchair will not get her there quickly. I have timed it in the parks and On average a wheelchair will take approximately 35% longer to get from point A to Point B than walking. An ECV is about 25% longer.
I think you're missing the point. OP was asking about the possibility of using a golf cart to get to First Aid, which implies that her DD would not be able to walk there. If that's the case, then a wheelchair is certainly preferable to lying down in the line.

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I would not recommend laying down in line, she will get trampled, which is sad, but true. If you are not close to first aid, ask the nearest CM what the best option is, there may be somewhere that would at least be safe to lay down at.
While I would never say that someone should be trampled, I don't find it "sad", since IMO, it is completely unreasonable to believe it would be OK to just lie down in the middle of the line rather than utilize a wheelchair to get to First Aid.
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OP, how much time does she get as a warning before she HAS to lay down. That may help us tailor our responses more to your needs.

Realistically, if you have to asks CM for help, it is going to be at least a few minutes before they can get a wheelchair to you. Does your DD have a few minutes? Or is it a very short window of opportunity for her to lay down?
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I think you're missing the point. OP was asking about the possibility of using a golf cart to get to First Aid, which implies that her DD would not be able to walk there. If that's the case, then a wheelchair is certainly preferable to lying down in the line.

I wasn't really responding to the OP about that. Someone asked if a wheelchair could get her there fast enough and I was simply pointing out that it takes longer than walking and the OP said that walking would take too long.

While I would never say that someone should be trampled, I don't find it "sad", since IMO, it is completely unreasonable to believe it would be OK to just lie down in the middle of the line rather than utilize a wheelchair to get to First Aid.
I just find it sad that people will trample someone who has fallen down in line (happened at DLR under the old, old, old guest assistance system when they did require doctor notes)
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Old 06-23-2014, 05:23 AM   #13
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My dd30 does get the DAS as standing in place will cause her to pass out. If she goes down in a line she may hurt herself or those around her. She uses an ECV but staying on it too long will cause her to pass out when she stands. My dd10 was diagnosed with the same condition two weeks ago. They both can tell when its happening (numb hands, dizziness, stars) but they only have a short while to lay down before it happens. My oldest has gotten to the point that she will lay down almost anywhere and wouldn't attempt to get to first aid.
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Old 06-23-2014, 06:55 AM   #14
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I just find it sad that people will trample someone who has fallen down in line (happened at DLR under the old, old, old guest assistance system when they did require doctor notes)
I don't think people intentionally trample on someone but when you are looking forward not down, especially when it's not something one would expect, it's easy to see why it would happen
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Old 06-23-2014, 07:09 AM   #15
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If this occurs, is there first aid available that could take her to a place she could rest before she seizes?
. . . each park has First Aid, and she can certain rest/lay there
. . . the CM's are not supposed to "take", in other words push a wheelchair
. . . some might, but policy says no, due to the liability


Perhaps a CM can call and they could bring a golf cart to take her to first aid where she can lay until it passes, or she seizes and recovers?
. . . golf carts are not supposed to be in the parks
. . . they are too dangerous to all guests
. . . however, the CM's can call an "Alpha Unit", which is the code for the EMT unit



NOTE1: With her condition, it is probably best to start out with renting an ECV
or wheelchair. In the event of an episode, she can get to a First Aid Station.
Sadly, there is no good alternative.

NOTE2: As mentioned above (whether in jest or in earnest), lying down in an
attraction line is not a good thing. She is VERY likely to experience nasty
guests. Additionally, lying down in a line, and sometimes even on the grass,
will cause a CM to call an Alpha Unit if she does not respond by getting back
up when requested by a CM. The EMT's will want to transport her on a gurney
to get her to First Aid. Usually EMT's can show up within 6-8 minutes. YES,
THAT QUICKLY! (As an ex-Combat-Medic, I can say these guys are that good!)
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