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Old 09-30-2013, 12:28 PM   #31
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I have two questions that someone will probably be able to help with once they've got the DAS fully rolled out.

1) What is The exact size of the DAS (I want to make my in-laws a duct tape wallet with Mickey tape specifically to hold KTTW, tickets, fastpasses & FILs DAS card. That way no one has to pull all their stuff out of separate places if one of us wants to grab a set of passes or whatnot. And less chance for $$ or credit cards to fall out of real wallets. Anyhow. I want to know how big of a pocket to allow for the card, but not too big so it slides out.

2) I'm guessing DAS probably won't be issued at the water parks? I was hoping to get in-laws checked in at the water park the night we arrive at the hotel (since they'll have 3-day resident vouchers that will require ID verification). But now I'm thinking I'd be too lucky to be able to pick up his DAS at the same time. I'd love not to have to haul everyone out of bed extra early to still make rope-drop. FIL is also immune-compromised and I'd love to have him in (and possibly out of) the park before the crowds pick way up - just for his own peace of mind.

Anyone who goes after rollout (or CMs involved in the system?), I'd be thrilled to know what your experience with these two points. If this thread starts getting super-long - answer here (of course) but PM me too so i don't miss it? Thank you
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If I have a DAS, will I still be able to get FastPasses with park ticket? I am wondering if they tie your park ticket info into the DAS.
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If I have a DAS, will I still be able to get FastPasses with park ticket? I am wondering if they tie your park ticket info into the DAS.
Yes that won't change for now until fast pass plus takes full effect then you get to make fat pass plus reservations.
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I have two questions that someone will probably be able to help with once they've got the DAS fully rolled out.

1) What is The exact size of the DAS (I want to make my in-laws a duct tape wallet with Mickey tape specifically to hold KTTW, tickets, fastpasses & FILs DAS card. That way no one has to pull all their stuff out of separate places if one of us wants to grab a set of passes or whatnot. And less chance for $$ or credit cards to fall out of real wallets. Anyhow. I want to know how big of a pocket to allow for the card, but not too big so it slides out.

2) I'm guessing DAS probably won't be issued at the water parks? I was hoping to get in-laws checked in at the water park the night we arrive at the hotel (since they'll have 3-day resident vouchers that will require ID verification). But now I'm thinking I'd be too lucky to be able to pick up his DAS at the same time. I'd love not to have to haul everyone out of bed extra early to still make rope-drop. FIL is also immune-compromised and I'd love to have him in (and possibly out of) the park before the crowds pick way up - just for his own peace of mind.

Anyone who goes after rollout (or CMs involved in the system?), I'd be thrilled to know what your experience with these two points. If this thread starts getting super-long - answer here (of course) but PM me too so i don't miss it? Thank you
Post #1 seems to answer your questions:

1) DAS card will be slightly larger than the GAC card, which was 3.5 inches by 5 inches.
It will need to come in and out of the pouch, though, for the return times to be noted on the back.

2) issued at Guest Relations at Theme Parks (see below for locations)
- DAS card is only used at Theme Park attractions; not used at Water Parks, buses, restaurants or parking

Since the previous GAC system was not available at Water Parks, and the new DAS does not appear to be valid at Water Parks, it would be logical to assume it can only be obtained at a major theme park

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If I have a DAS, will I still be able to get FastPasses with park ticket? I am wondering if they tie your park ticket info into the DAS.
You will still be able to use Fastpass with the DAS.
As was already mentioned, right now at WDW, Fastpass is operating.

They are testing Fastpass Plus and when it is complete, it will replace the original Fastpass. A DAS holder will be able to choose to use DAS, to use Fastpass or just wait in the regular line if that works for you.

Eventually, when Fastpass Plus and RFID is completely rolled out, they might link DAS to the park ticket. It's probably a long way in the future though.
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Post #1 seems to answer your questions:

1) DAS card will be slightly larger than the GAC card, which was 3.5 inches by 5 inches.
It will need to come in and out of the pouch, though, for the return times to be noted on the back.
I wasn't sure what slightly meant. 1/8in, 1/4in, half? But I guess it probably not too major.

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2) issued at Guest Relations at Theme Parks (see below for locations)
- DAS card is only used at Theme Park attractions; not used at Water Parks, buses, restaurants or parking
Since the previous GAC system was not available at Water Parks, and the new DAS does not appear to be valid at Water Parks, it would be logical to assume it can only be obtained at a major theme park

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Well I feel like a dork - I completely missed that - sorry!
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Old 09-30-2013, 05:40 PM   #37
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If local AP holders need to be photographed every day, then let's hope Disney sets up a third Guest Relations in the rear of each park. That should ease up the lines that will certainly develop (I remember when USF/IOA had photos on APs), and allow all guests to participate in RD.
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For Illuminations, guests with a visible need - for example, having an ECV, wheelchair or other mobility device were allowed in without a GAC. Those with invisible disabilities had to show a GAC.
I do not have specific information about that, but my guess is that it will remain that way for Illuminations - those with visible need will be allowed in and those without visible needs will need a DAS card.
That is just my guess, but those spots now are first come, first serve and people who can't get in can park anywhere along the World Showcase water, so it's not like they can't see it if they are not in those handicapped viewing areas.

It's possible that might change in some way - like those with visible need and DAS card or just DAS are allowed access first for a period of time, then the area is open to those with visible needs after that time.
This is one we'll have to see how it works out.

I haven't got the part about wheelchair access in post one yet, but here is the information. The park maps for guests with disabilities list the mobility entrances for each attraction. Guests with a visible need who don't have a DAS would use whatever is listed for the 'mobility entrance' for that attraction.

Some are totally Mainstream, which means the entire queue is accessible. Some are mostly Mainstream (which actually includesSplash Mountain) and are listed on the map as Mainstream.

For those that are listed as not bring Mainstream access, those without DAS will speak to an attraction host CM and get a Return Ticket ( not the same as DAS card holders will get because a person can have more than one if those tickets).

That's the short version and I will add to post 1 tonight
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Interesting!!! Because the story I am hearing from the CMs that went to training was that you could still only have ONE of those! These cards would be for people with stroller as wheelchairs, ecv users, and wheelchairs. And it wouldn't be fair to let them collect a bunch while a DAS user can only have one assigned pending ride time. Which if you think about it makes perfect sense.
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I wasn't sure what slightly meant. 1/8in, 1/4in, half? But I guess it probably not too major.
You're right, they haven't given specifics but that does give you an idea. If you have enough time to wait for reports to start coming in next week, I'm sure someone can give exact dimensions. I guess I'm thinking maybe 4x6? Just a guess.
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You're right, they haven't given specifics but that does give you an idea. If you have enough time to wait for reports to start coming in next week, I'm sure someone can give exact dimensions. I guess I'm thinking maybe 4x6? Just a guess.
Yeah. I'm hoping someone does come back in the next week or two with the info. If nothing else, I'll be going to Apopka to see a friend the weekend of the 20th and might make the 45min trip down to the gate to play Q&A with some poor CM

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The stamps were problematic in several ways
- the stamps were very general; for example guests with visual disabilities might get: Allow Guest to sit in front row
- that 'instruction' only fit attractions that were theater type situations, but the guest might still need assistance for their visual disability at

different attractions


Certainly true. I was kind of hoping that while they were revamping the other parts of the system, they would work on these things, too, but since I haven't heard any rumors I'm not holding my breath.

My worry is, that since so many CM's either don't understand visual disabilities or take them seriously as it is, they will be even less inclined to do so with no documentation at all.
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Interesting!!! Because the story I am hearing from the CMs that went to training was that you could still only have ONE of those! These cards would be for people with stroller as wheelchairs, ecv users, and wheelchairs. And it wouldn't be fair to let them collect a bunch while a DAS user can only have one assigned pending ride time. Which if you think about it makes perfect sense.
I guess we'll see.
It's possible the source may have been mistaken.
I think though since there are actually very few attractions at WDW that are not considere Mainstream, it may not matter much.
Those cards are attraction specific, and given out by the attraction CMs so there would be no way to know who is holding one and for which attractions.

I have not heard anything about Disneyland - that may be different because there are so many more attractions that have handicapped entrances.
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[*]DAS will be issued for up to 6 (5 plus the person with a disability)
[i]UNCONFIRMED RUMOR, PROBABLY TRUE: Guest Relations will probably be able to make exceptions on a case by case basis - for example, 7 for a family of 2 adults and 5 children
WOO HOO!!! As an IMMEDIATE family of 7, I am beyond thrilled about this! In the past we have split up with my husband taking the older children through the regular lines and Fastpass, and I would use the GAC with my daughter and the younger siblings. Now that all of the kids are older and we can hopefully stay together as a family, we were concerned about the 6 person limit. This is awesome!

I understand the limit, but I always felt there should have been an exception for IMMEDIATE families.

I will also add, that it never occurred to me, nor do I think we would have tried, to use the GAC for anything my daughter was not actually riding. I can see where this may have been a reasonable option for some families, but it really never once occurred to me.

We think the new system will work fine for our family, but I respect other people's concern.
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Will Stroller as a wheelchair still be an option?

My dd has Autism and her stroller is her safe place.

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WOO HOO!!! As an IMMEDIATE family of 7, I am beyond thrilled about this! In the past we have split up with my husband taking the older children through the regular lines and Fastpass, and I would use the GAC with my daughter and the younger siblings. Now that all of the kids are older and we can hopefully stay together as a family, we were concerned about the 6 person limit. This is awesome!

I understand the limit, but I always felt there should have been an exception for IMMEDIATE families.

I will also add, that it never occurred to me, nor do I think we would have tried, to use the GAC for anything my daughter was not actually riding. I can see where this may have been a reasonable option for some families, but it really never once occurred to me.

We think the new system will work fine for our family, but I respect other people's concern.
They have actually made exceptions for GACs in the situations I mentioned.
They are exceptions, so people asking for the exception will need to explain why.
Ive not personally heard of more than 8. And, there may be situation where you may still need to split up because of space/number of seats.
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