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Old 07-11-2013, 10:43 AM   #31
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I'm not a DVC owner (yet!) but I wanted to throw my 2 cents in.

I'm sort of you in about 10 years. I started going back to Disney as an adult when I was 21. I'm 34 now, and have gone every year (sometimes twice a year) for all those years in between. We stayed wherever the budget could afford for each particular trip - from offsite at a Comfort Inn to the Poly and everything in between. DVC was always a fantasy, but I could never justify the price, especially because the maintenance fees would be more than the cost of continuing to stay at values.

Now, after 13 years of WDW travel, we're at the point where we can pay for DVC without financing and we've pretty much decided we would absolutely love to never have to stay at a value resort again. We just put in our first offer for a resale at BWV. I think it is the right thing for us now, but it probably wasn't before.

On another note re: your knees - don't discount the benefits of an ECV. My DH has some physical issues and has always hated the toll that all the walking in the parks takes on him. Last trip he was in worse shape than usual so we rented an ECV for him in the parks a few days - one of the best trips we ever had!
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Old 07-11-2013, 12:08 PM   #32
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I'm not a DVC owner (yet!) but I wanted to throw my 2 cents in.

I'm sort of you in about 10 years. I started going back to Disney as an adult when I was 21. I'm 34 now, and have gone every year (sometimes twice a year) for all those years in between. We stayed wherever the budget could afford for each particular trip - from offsite at a Comfort Inn to the Poly and everything in between. DVC was always a fantasy, but I could never justify the price, especially because the maintenance fees would be more than the cost of continuing to stay at values.

Now, after 13 years of WDW travel, we're at the point where we can pay for DVC without financing and we've pretty much decided we would absolutely love to never have to stay at a value resort again. We just put in our first offer for a resale at BWV. I think it is the right thing for us now, but it probably wasn't before.

On another note re: your knees - don't discount the benefits of an ECV. My DH has some physical issues and has always hated the toll that all the walking in the parks takes on him. Last trip he was in worse shape than usual so we rented an ECV for him in the parks a few days - one of the best trips we ever had!
Wow, I didn't do the math on that one. The maintenance fees alone are more than the cost of a value!? Glad you told me that. Another reason to hold off.

So far I've only ended up in a wheelchair in MK once. During wishes, had a tweak in my ACL. And Epcot I typically need one, because it's just so much shear walking, so as someone said, a resort close to Epcot honestly might be something we have underrated. I've thought about renting a wheelchair/ECV for the week. I know it would make for so much of a better trip. Hell, DW gets mad at me for giving up my seat on the bus, but I just can't help it lol. Eventually I probably need to just bite the bullet and get one. I think the main thing holding me back (other than my pride) is boarding the thing on the bus. Seems like a hastle, and all the staring I get, seeing as I'm 23, with no visual injury. I suppose just picking one up at the park could work.
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Old 07-11-2013, 12:41 PM   #33
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Wow, I didn't do the math on that one. The maintenance fees alone are more than the cost of a value!? Glad you told me that. Another reason to hold off.
The DVC Resource Center sticky has the MF for all the resorts (historical as well). 100 BWV points can get you 6-8 nights studio, standard view, about most of the year and would have cost $584 in MF for the 2013 calendar year. There is a sale pending for a 100 pt BWV contract going for $88/pt.




Quick question, I don't know the details of your injury, but you are young enough that you will want to have these WDW vacations for a few decades. It will always involved some walking. Is there any type of surgery that can fix it? I'm far from being a dr and if this offends you or any other DIS'er I'm sorry. But I hear about older people getting knee replacements etc and the recovery is a year or so. But OP, maybe with youth, that will speed it up? I do realize that the injuries from the sport you participated in and accelerated the wear and tear. Maybe you can add the cost of knee replacement into the cost of a DVC and purchase SSR or something cheaper, so you'll have good knees + SSR as opposed to bad knees + BWV?
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Old 07-11-2013, 02:13 PM   #34
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Quick question, I don't know the details of your injury, but you are young enough that you will want to have these WDW vacations for a few decades. It will always involved some walking. Is there any type of surgery that can fix it? I'm far from being a dr and if this offends you or any other DIS'er I'm sorry. But I hear about older people getting knee replacements etc and the recovery is a year or so. But OP, maybe with youth, that will speed it up? I do realize that the injuries from the sport you participated in and accelerated the wear and tear. Maybe you can add the cost of knee replacement into the cost of a DVC and purchase SSR or something cheaper, so you'll have good knees + SSR as opposed to bad knees + BWV?
No problem. I wish it worked that way, and I was kind of shocked to hear it didn't as well. I tore my ACL/meniscus and sustained heavy damage to my IT band, and plenty of other muscle/tendon/ligaments as well. I'm not a doctor, so I'm not sure on all the specifications. I sustained that injury when I was about 13. From what my trainers told me, once an ACL sustained damage, you typically have about 6 weeks to have surgical repairs done, after that it's chronic. I had myself checked out when I turned 18. By that point, i had not only not had the surgery, but reinjured it multiple times as well, and the damage had been done. I thought it was like a bone, just retear it and fix it how it should be. I was told that the technology just isn't there yet, and the best they could tell me was to keep track of stem cell. A trip to Duke gave me the same answers. No one at Duke could even identify the extent of the injuries by multiple MRIs and Xrays. My left leg is (in every single system in that leg) 42% weaker than my right leg. Because my right leg then has to work twice as hard, it virtually is always inflamed and is steadily continuing to take damage until (the doctor's estimate) I'll need assistance walking in my 30s. What I experience is sharp pains in my knee cap area, and dislocation/muscle failure can easily occur.

So, it seems these are the cards I've been dealt. I've already been forced to give up the sport I've known and loved since as long as I can remember, and by God I'm not giving up on Disney! lol.
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My left leg is (in every single system in that leg) 42% weaker than my right leg. Because my right leg then has to work twice as hard, it virtually is always inflamed and is steadily continuing to take damage until (the doctor's estimate) I'll need assistance walking in my 30s. What I experience is sharp pains in my knee cap area, and dislocation/muscle failure can easily occur.

So, it seems these are the cards I've been dealt. I've already been forced to give up the sport I've known and loved since as long as I can remember, and by God I'm not giving up on Disney! lol.
I can't post on DIS what I want to say, so I'll say, that freaking sucks.

I'm sure you've tried it all, wraps, bands, walking canes, etc. I'm glad you get to enjoy Disney though. Maybe in 10 years, they'll have affordable exo skeletons to help strengthen your legs.
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No problem. I wish it worked that way, and I was kind of shocked to hear it didn't as well. I tore my ACL/meniscus and sustained heavy damage to my IT band, and plenty of other muscle/tendon/ligaments as well. I'm not a doctor, so I'm not sure on all the specifications. I sustained that injury when I was about 13. From what my trainers told me, once an ACL sustained damage, you typically have about 6 weeks to have surgical repairs done, after that it's chronic. I had myself checked out when I turned 18. By that point, i had not only not had the surgery, but reinjured it multiple times as well, and the damage had been done. I thought it was like a bone, just retear it and fix it how it should be. I was told that the technology just isn't there yet, and the best they could tell me was to keep track of stem cell. A trip to Duke gave me the same answers. No one at Duke could even identify the extent of the injuries by multiple MRIs and Xrays. My left leg is (in every single system in that leg) 42% weaker than my right leg. Because my right leg then has to work twice as hard, it virtually is always inflamed and is steadily continuing to take damage until (the doctor's estimate) I'll need assistance walking in my 30s. What I experience is sharp pains in my knee cap area, and dislocation/muscle failure can easily occur.

So, it seems these are the cards I've been dealt. I've already been forced to give up the sport I've known and loved since as long as I can remember, and by God I'm not giving up on Disney! lol.
I'm so sorry, I have a chronic illness (so I know how frustrating it is to have your body betray you at a very young age). I would recommend you rent an ECV on your next trip. Waiting till you get to the park to rent one is problematic for a few reasons:

* They could run out by the time you get there

*The ones at the park are $50 per day ($20 of that is a refundable deposit). Getting one from offsite means you can use it getting to the parks and will be much, MUCH cheaper than at the parks.

*The ones at the park are slower than molases, annoyingly slow

We rented one for my MIL last year and she loved the one from offsite (which we needed to leave at our rental house to be picked up on our last day). So we rented her one of the park ones on the last day and the lack of speed drove her and us nuts.

Don't be afraid of what people will think of you in the ECV, if it lets you enjoy Disney pain free, don't let idiots stop you!
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All good advice, but there is a DVC safety valve: Renting. If you bought 120 pts SSR, for example, and you are out of a job. (Just being the devil here). Your yearly maintenance would be under $600 and you could rent all the points easily at $11 pp = $1320. Now your maintenance fees are paid and you have a $720 difference to pay for any financing of DVC or put toward the mortgage. Absolute worst case, you sell the points. Not a major risk IMO.
Yeah, you weren't here in 2009, were you? People lost thousands that they couldn't afford to loose on DVC. People who tried to rent points found a flooded rental market. The unfortunate truth of the economy is that for most people, when you can least afford the risk is when the risk becomes a reality - whether DVC points or the stock market.
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I can't post on DIS what I want to say, so I'll say, that freaking sucks.

I'm sure you've tried it all, wraps, bands, walking canes, etc. I'm glad you get to enjoy Disney though. Maybe in 10 years, they'll have affordable exo skeletons to help strengthen your legs.
Yeah, I'm over it. Gotta make the best of it.

I've got tons of therapy and all that good stuff to walk as long as possible. No regrets, though.

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I'm so sorry, I have a chronic illness (so I know how frustrating it is to have your body betray you at a very young age). I would recommend you rent an ECV on your next trip. Waiting till you get to the park to rent one is problematic for a few reasons:

* They could run out by the time you get there

*The ones at the park are $50 per day ($20 of that is a refundable deposit). Getting one from offsite means you can use it getting to the parks and will be much, MUCH cheaper than at the parks.

*The ones at the park are slower than molases, annoyingly slow

We rented one for my MIL last year and she loved the one from offsite (which we needed to leave at our rental house to be picked up on our last day). So we rented her one of the park ones on the last day and the lack of speed drove her and us nuts.

Don't be afraid of what people will think of you in the ECV, if it lets you enjoy Disney pain free, don't let idiots stop you!
I figured that was the case. Funny enough, my dad broke his ankle in a motocross accident a few weeks before our Disney trip when I was younger. He got a wheelchair for one day, which wore him out so the next day he got an ECV off site because I remember them saying it was way cheaper.
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