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Old 04-25-2013, 11:33 AM   #31
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Mesaboy (always appreciate your input!) or anyone else - so, my question is, for those people that do NOT have a smart phone, I understand they will have kiosks throughout the park - but are they supposed to 'remember' their fastpass times throughout the day - without that traditional paper FP and no smart phone - how is that possible? Of course my DH and I have them, but my 14 year old doesn't, what if he is doing something on his own as he gets older and needs to check or change a time - how inconvenient is that. I guess I think it's pretty presumptuous of Disney to assume that everyone will have the technology to use this system (kiosks aside, that is what they are assuming). I realize it's hard for people with smart phones to realize, but there is a huge chunk of our population that still do not use them - and then they have to use the kiosks, won't there be lines there as well? I don't see how those without the tecknology will be able to use this. Does anyone else think this is an issue?

Last beef - I am confident Disney monitors these boards and other sights - I cannot believe the continue to allow all of this speculation to occur without some damage control from a PR stand point - it makes me think they are up a creek without a paddle. Let's just say I deal with Disney on a regular basis for business, and I have heard multiple different accounts of what, when, how this will work - why are they allowing their staff to misinform? Bad business. Bottom line - we have little to no idea what the final outcome is going to be and when it will occur - just trying to remain positive is getting old!

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If what I heard is wrong, it would definitely be bothersome that their online CMs would so confidently give you incorrect information.

In the end it's not a big deal, just... bothersome.
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Old 04-25-2013, 11:46 AM   #33
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If what I heard is wrong, it would definitely be bothersome that their online CMs would so confidently give you incorrect information.

In the end it's not a big deal, just... bothersome.
I totally agree with you - like I said, bad business for so many to be giving different versions of what is happening. Big picture for all of us, we are talking about fast passes at a theme park, so this shouldn't ruin any of our lives or vacations, it's just a bummer to have it be such a mystery!
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Old 04-25-2013, 11:55 AM   #34
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It has been stated that FP+ will be able to be used by all park goers wheather they stay onsite or not.
I understood that those staying offsite could only get access to fastpass once they entered the park. If that's true, than they will not have access to the 60 day booking window. Those with room reservations and annual passes are the only ones with the 60 day advantage. But what about those that bought annual passes and don't plan on activating them until they go to the park for the first time?
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Old 04-25-2013, 11:55 AM   #35
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I would think you would not get a paper Fastpass ticket. It would be electronic and stored on your account that you access with the RFID bracelet/card, and there would be no more paper involved. That would all be in the future, at some point where everyone has only RFID/compatible ticket media, be it a card or a bracelet. They won't be doing it now, or possibly anytime soon. Or maybe never. There's no way to know yet.
This is what I think. Same-day FP will really be the same as FP+, just not in advance. So using the same app, kiosk, bracelets, whatever, but not paper.
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Old 04-25-2013, 11:57 AM   #36
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well if the pictures of the carousel of progress are "accurate".. fp + for it is the way to go Its kind of like convincing the new guy playing fantasy football to take a kicker first! Tell new folks that the carousel of progress is a must do fp + attraction.

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To me it's also concerning that we might only be able to get a fastpass for one headliner if that and the rest might only be good for less popular attractions.

Of course all of this is just conjecture but I really don't see why the rides will be less crowded as a result of the new system as a few other posters said. I just see us possibly unable to get as many fastpasses as before.
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Old 04-25-2013, 11:59 AM   #37
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We fear change.
Seriously. I bet a lot of people reacted similarly when FP first rolled out. (Not me; I loved it. )
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I think the new system is going to be good. I think the current system kind of stinks personally, so I am looking forward to the new one. If I don't have to get up at dark o'clock in the morning for rope drop anymore, I will be a happy camper.
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Old 04-25-2013, 12:03 PM   #39
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I read every fp + thread.. it's just good therapy and helps pass the time until our trip.. I look at it this way, every fp + thread gets us 1 day closer to disney and 1 day closer to not having to use fp +

hoping that
I agree - it's kind of 'fun' to speculate, and I realize that is all it is. It's still talking about Disney! I know some people are REALLY upset, but I just see these threads as a discussion on something that interests many of us.
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Mesaboy (always appreciate your input!) or anyone else - so, my question is, for those people that do NOT have a smart phone, I understand they will have kiosks throughout the park - but are they supposed to 'remember' their fastpass times throughout the day - without that traditional paper FP and no smart phone - how is that possible? Of course my DH and I have them, but my 14 year old doesn't, what if he is doing something on his own as he gets older and needs to check or change a time - how inconvenient is that. I guess I think it's pretty presumptuous of Disney to assume that everyone will have the technology to use this system (kiosks aside, that is what they are assuming). I realize it's hard for people with smart phones to realize, but there is a huge chunk of our population that still do not use them - and then they have to use the kiosks, won't there be lines there as well? I don't see how those without the tecknology will be able to use this. Does anyone else think this is an issue?

Last beef - I am confident Disney monitors these boards and other sights - I cannot believe the continue to allow all of this speculation to occur without some damage control from a PR stand point - it makes me think they are up a creek without a paddle. Let's just say I deal with Disney on a regular basis for business, and I have heard multiple different accounts of what, when, how this will work - why are they allowing their staff to misinform? Bad business. Bottom line - we have little to no idea what the final outcome is going to be and when it will occur - just trying to remain positive is getting old!

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I agree - it's kind of 'fun' to speculate, and I realize that is all it is. It's still talking about Disney! I know some people are REALLY upset, but I just see these threads as a discussion on something that interests many of us.
I agree.

A very few others see these threads as an opportunity to argue.
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I agree - it's kind of 'fun' to speculate, and I realize that is all it is. It's still talking about Disney! I know some people are REALLY upset, but I just see these threads as a discussion on something that interests many of us.
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I agree - it's kind of 'fun' to speculate, and I realize that is all it is. It's still talking about Disney! I know some people are REALLY upset, but I just see these threads as a discussion on something that interests many of us.
I agree it is fun and interesting to specualte and debate/discuss the possibilities. However, the sometimes overwhelming, yet unfounded, sentiment that the "sky is falling (again)" gets difficult after a while.
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For the record I wasn't bothered by anything directed at me. I take things in stride.

And while this might be a repeat for some people, I've only recently returned to the boards after a few years away. It's a new discussion for me which is why I got a little invested in it.

Overall, though, no harm done, I'm enjoying the discussion.
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For the record I wasn't bothered by anything directed at me. I take things in stride.

And while this might be a repeat for some people, I've only recently returned to the boards after a few years away. It's a new discussion for me which is why I got a little invested in it.

Overall, though, no harm done, I'm enjoying the discussion.
Same here.

In case it was unclear to anyone, I was always only discussing and sharing what I understand the current FP+ situation to be. I am confident that the vast majority of posters here would agree that it does not read as arguing. I have no illusions about the scope of what I (and most everyone else) know--which is very little. All I have to go on is what is published on Disney sites and what the fine folks of the DISboards community have reasonably guessed to date. But I will not put supposed "official" information from a single CM ahead of the collective knowledge of the many helpful posters here on the DISboards (especially when they are in contrast to each other) and was pointing out that distinction to the quoted poster who appears to have taken it in the good-natured manner intended.
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for those people that do NOT have a smart phone, I understand they will have kiosks throughout the park - but are they supposed to 'remember' their fastpass times throughout the day - without that traditional paper FP and no smart phone - how is that possible?
The same way these people remember every other important thing in their lives.

I think that it's important to remember that a FP is really just a reservation not unlike a dining reservation. Many times, we have been in the parks and called to see about dining reservations for that evening. If openings were available, they would schedule it for us and we would have to remember to show up at the correct time. How did we remember? We wrote it down or we typed a note in our phone/pda or we simply remembered the reservation time.
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Last beef - I am confident Disney monitors these boards and other sights - I cannot believe the continue to allow all of this speculation to occur without some damage control from a PR stand point - it makes me think they are up a creek without a paddle. Let's just say I deal with Disney on a regular basis for business, and I have heard multiple different accounts of what, when, how this will work - why are they allowing their staff to misinform?
How do we know that the staff is actually misinforming? Even if we have two CMs, one who says that you can't use both FP & FP+ and the other who says that you will be able to prereserve FP+s and get same-day FPs, we don't know if those two statements are contrary or simply definitional.

Basically, I think that these threads may or may not identify issues that TPTB didn't think of but mostly I think that they just help out the person who has to write the FAQ.

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I understood that those staying offsite could only get access to fastpass once they entered the park. If that's true, than they will not have access to the 60 day booking window. Those with room reservations and annual passes are the only ones with the 60 day advantage. But what about those that bought annual passes and don't plan on activating them until they go to the park for the first time?
That is not how I understand it. As I understand it, anyone who holds a valid ticket will be able to make FP reservations up to sixty days in advance. This is not tied to room reservations. The only people who would not be able to make advance FP reservations are those people who buy their tickets at the gate because they would not have been previously holding valid tickets that would allow for advance FP reservations. This, of course, includes those who upgrade their tickets after arrival. They would only be able to make advance FP reservations for the number of days for which they held valid tickets in advance.
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