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Old 10-06-2012, 07:50 AM   #16
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I'm in the "don't wanna wear a bracelet" camp. Surely it could be worn on a lanyard, clipped to a bag, etc., as long as it's on your person somewhere. ???
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Old 10-06-2012, 07:56 AM   #17
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am I the only one not excited about wearing a plasticy bracelet in the Florida heat and humidity! Yucky, sweaty, rubbery, blah!
No you are not alone!!! I hate the idea, not for myself but for my son. He has sensory issues and any kind of wristband bothers him!!! When we go to MVMCP he pulls at the wristband from the minute they put it on him, midway thru the night it's usually off. I can't even imagine him wearing one our entire 10 day trip
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Old 10-06-2012, 07:59 AM   #18
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In addition to all the points made- I am not happy to see that it has names on it. I don't put names on my girls' hats or clothing I am not happy to have their name on a bracelet for anyone to see and read.
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Old 10-06-2012, 08:12 AM   #19
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In addition to all the points made- I am not happy to see that it has names on it. I don't put names on my girls' hats or clothing I am not happy to have their name on a bracelet for anyone to see and read.
I'm also afraid that, especially with a too-big bracelet made cheaply, it will be easier to lose and break it. At least with the KTTW cards, I can stick the card, my school ID, gift cards for the day, and any FP's in a small zippered section of my purse and not have to worry about losing it.
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Old 10-06-2012, 08:16 AM   #20
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Anybody else notice they are assembled in China? So much for made in the USA
Saw that. Good grief...we need made in America Mickey! Guess I'll have to keep the band in my pocket or elsewhere. I don't wear a watch or bracelets..can't stand anything on my wrists.
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Old 10-06-2012, 08:17 AM   #21
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I loved the idea. So much better than carrying around the KTTK card. As long as I can remove it to shower and to sleep I'm more than okay with this idea.
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Old 10-06-2012, 08:33 AM   #22
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Terrible idea. I don't want to walk around for week with a bracelet on.

And what happened to the "going green" initiative that eliminated the EMH wristband because they were adding to landfills. I'm no tree-hugger, but I'm saying a electronic, battery powered polyurethane wristband, worn by 10's of thousands of people everyday is a little more polluting then few paper strips.
Probably the same amount of plastic as a kttw card and no batteries . I will give people the not wanting to wear a bracelet.
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Old 10-06-2012, 08:33 AM   #23
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I have mixed feelings about this new system. I'm sure it is going to provide some cutting-edge experiences in the parks, but what I'm really not looking forward to is....

Post-Disney-Trip wrist tan lines.
(If Disney was thinking through this initiative, they'd have a Mickey head cut-out in the bands to give all guests a Mickey head shaped tan mark. How's that for a marketing idea?)

On a serious note, I can't wait to try it out to see just how Disney plans to use it around the parks and resorts.
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Well, I'm happy to hear that they are using active (battery-powered) RFID tags. This kind of technology will make unauthorized skimming much, much more difficult compared to a system using only passive tags. They can use rolling codes or challenge-response authentication.

I was uncomfortable with the idea of using passive RFID tags as room keys. In my mind, it's like leaving every balcony door unlocked. Someone could've discretely skimmed tags from guests' pockets. (Based on my recent post on the DVC boards, most people either don't understand the technology, or simply accept the risk.) I like WDW's proposed active tag system a lot better.

Really, I'm okay with WDW tracking my every move, as long as their system is hacker-resistant. Active tags, with their relatively long reading distance, will allow WDW to do a lot of interesting things.
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Old 10-06-2012, 09:22 AM   #25
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Well, I'm happy to hear that they are using active (battery-powered) RFID tags. This kind of technology will make unauthorized skimming much, much more difficult compared to a system using only passive tags. They can use rolling codes or challenge-response authentication.

I was uncomfortable with the idea of using passive RFID tags as room keys. In my mind, it's like leaving every balcony door unlocked. Someone could've discretely skimmed tags from guests' pockets. (Based on my recent post on the DVC boards, most people either don't understand the technology, or simply accept the risk.) I like WDW's proposed active tag system a lot better.

Really, I'm okay with WDW tracking my every move, as long as their system is hacker-resistant. Active tags, with their relatively long reading distance, will allow WDW to do a lot of interesting things.
Was it mentioned anywhere that they had batteries?
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Was it mentioned anywhere that they had batteries?
Doesn't matter if they are passive or active either way it has to send a signal that can be picked up and copied to another band. Unless you have to scan it and then type in a password it will be subject to hacking. Have we not learned anything from the RFID credit card skimmers??? I would be great for location awareness or anything that is inconsequential but when you attach it to an account (i.e. tickets, room entrance so on) it is not a secure technology.
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Was it mentioned anywhere that they had batteries?
In the article linked in the first post.
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Old 10-06-2012, 09:41 AM   #28
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Is there a date set for these are to begin?
Not just for testing.
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Is there a date set for these are to begin?
Not just for testing.
Well they would have to convert all the turnstiles, FP machines, Photopass readers, cash registers and hotel door locks (did I miss any?). I think its going to take a bit of time.

It could be done in phases but then you would have to carry this and a KTTW card.

As for door locks I know they installed them at AoA because they were all new but I thought I had heard that they may have started at some other resorts. Also how many attractions have the new readers?
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Doesn't matter if they are passive or active either way it has to send a signal that can be picked up and copied to another band. Unless you have to scan it and then type in a password it will be subject to hacking. Have we not learned anything from the RFID credit card skimmers??? I would be great for location awareness or anything that is inconsequential but when you attach it to an account (i.e. tickets, room entrance so on) it is not a secure technology.
Not an expert but its my understanding that adding battery means it can randomly scramble the codes sent like the fob for your car. and/or its has to respond properly to a random code sent from the reader.

One of these days I going to truly figure out public private key encryption. Where I think you somehow give the password out to everyone.
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