Jon and Kate Plus 8, Official Thread-Part 4

[Eeyore'sthebest]

Originally Posted by C.Ann

If she has decided to continue on with this show then she has clearly showed her priorities - and it's not the happiness and welfare of her children..

If Jon has agreed to it, he's no better..

I can't even believe what I am reading here that was aired for their children to see and hear from everyone and their brother.. You think the tabloids and such were bad before? Watch them now! And those poor kids will still be stuck in the middle of it..

I hope people will wake up now and turn off their televisions.. This is not a show that deserves to be on the air..

I'm with you C.Ann. I am so done with this show. I am mad at TLC, Jon and Kate. I know everyone is blaming Kate but Jon is one of the parents. If he truly felt strongly about his kids not doing this show there are definitely legal avenues he could pursue. All he would have to do is get a child psychologist that specializes in divorce to go to court with him. Do you really think that TLC would want a court battle over this??? They would let these people out of their contract in a heartbeat if this threatened to blow up. Just imagine the bad publicity it would generate for TLC.

Heck, I just put my 9 yo DD to bed and she is heartbroken for these poor kids. Even she can't believe that they will still be filming this show. We're done.
I'd rather watch Bridezilla and Cake Boss. I know those shows are scripted but who cares as they don't have minor children being harmed!!!

[LoraJ]

Originally Posted by Starbrite

Not to defend her decision at all, because I agree it's time to wrap it up & cancel the show....
But it's probably good for the kids to keep doing it...just for a short bit. They've had these cameras around their whole lives, filming is normal for them. To continue for a few episodes would keep some stability; in a strange way. Not, mom & dad are getting divorced & the cameras are gone all in one week.

Hopefully someone undestands the point I was trying to make......I started rambling.

I totally understand and agree.

[C.Ann]

Originally Posted by crazee4mickey

All I can say is....
"The show must go on"
What kind of idiotic statement that is--way to go Kate, when your kids get older they'll love hearing that.

Originally Posted by joviroxx

I don't know, at this point, I would risk getting sued for the sake of my kids. I dont know what kind of contract it is or what kind of repercussions would exist but I would think if they couldnt get out, at least TLC would figure something out for those kids.

Originally Posted by madge

While I'm surprised that it came to a divorce .. I'm NOT surprised that the show is going on. Because that's what is important to Kate. That's been clear for months, now.

And at the end of their time in the spotlight, what will they have left their children? Financial security? Happiness? Love? Yes. But that's only part of it. All of this has played out in the public eye. That, to me, is the saddest part of all.

I'm glad I didn't watch. And I'm officially done. I'll not be around for thread #5.

And don't forget that the kids will also have all of these "happy childhood videos" to watch up close and personal - of their parents airing their dirty laundry on national tv.. I have no respect for these two people - none..

[Epcot luvr]

Originally Posted by Ember

I wish I had a house when I was 5...

[Imzadi]

Originally Posted by CaliforniaDreamin

Kate seems a lot more contemplative and sad. Jon seems, I don't know...almost apathetic. I never liked Kate, but I think we are seeing the real side of her. I feel badly for all of them.

I think she is just playing victim for all it's worth.

The TV tabloid show Extra! showed a home video of the two of them when they were first married, 10 years ago, when they were in their early 20's barely out of college. Kate was sooooooooooooo different. She was lighthearted, softer, carefree, no makeup. They were on their way to Disney. They couldn't get enough of each other. They were so HAPPY together.

I can understand how Jon fell in love with that woman. The woman I've seen in the few times I've watched the show, and tonight bares absolutely NO resemblance to that young woman. This woman is harsh, hard, critical, domineering, controling.

[DMRick]

Originally Posted by Ember

People keep saying it's so sad, there are hopes they can work things out and get back together... I think it's good they're divorcing. They are dysfunctional as a couple and their kids are seeing that every day. If they can be happy apart, that is a much healthier thing for their kids to see.

As the child of divorced parents, I look back and am so very glad and grateful my parents split up.

I'm with you. I think, like Kate said, this would have happened with or without the show. She mentioned several reasons why they have been doing the show, not just to have a tape of their lives. I think this has been going on for a very long time, but I still think she would have liked to have tried to work it out. He won't talk to her. He sees the brass ring and a chance to get out from under 8 kids, and he's gone. Although I'm betting he'll still enjoy the money.

I just can't get past how excited Jon was..he almost forgot to add that it's about the kids, after he said he had to do what was good for him.

[mistydoodles]

Originally Posted by C.Ann

If she has decided to continue on with this show then she has clearly showed her priorities - and it's not the happiness and welfare of her children..

If Jon has agreed to it, he's no better..

I can't even believe what I am reading here that was aired for their children to see and hear from everyone and their brother.. You think the tabloids and such were bad before? Watch them now! And those poor kids will still be stuck in the middle of it..

I hope people will wake up now and turn off their televisions.. This is not a show that deserves to be on the air..

I agree. I did not watch tonight and do not plan to watch again. I am just disgusted in the two of them and can not believe that they can't see what they are doing to their children. It is disgusting.

[kidshop]

Originally Posted by Mouse House Mama

I really can't take her. She does not have those kids interests at heart. I would think that she would be devastated and the last thing on her mind would be filming. Silly me. I thought that just maybe for once she would put her children first. What was I thinking?


BTW- Am I the only one here who thinks she really does have something going on with the bodyguard?

The bodyguard is definitely a possibility. She's just very discreet.

[*NikkiBell*]

For those of you who are offended and disgusted by the show, I'd suggest writing in to TLC. We all recommend it when something goes wrong at Disney so why not with this situation?

[madge]

Originally Posted by 1stluvispooh

Don't leave us Madge!

very sweet of you to say .. but I've found my closure, I think. Especially after the ridiculous commercial I just saw on TLC promoting next week's show. And especially after these people announced their divorce on national TV. that's just wrong, wrong, wrong. I don't give a flying flip what Jon and Kate do now.

[Disneynut5]

Originally Posted by kidshop

The bodyguard is definitely a possibility. She's just very discreet.

I hope not! The bodyguard has a wife and kids too. That would be two marriages that this show has broken up!

[sandramaac]

Kate----I, me, my kids

Jon----us, we, our kids


if possible, I dislike kate even more she is self-centered and self absorbed i don't think either one of them did anything to fix the marriage, however if i, as no more than an outside observer, who is basing my comments upon what has been presented by j and k on thier tlc show, would have to say that kate is 90% to blame for this situation

[madge]

Originally Posted by C.Ann

And don't forget that the kids will also have all of these "happy childhood videos" to watch up close and personal - of their parents airing their dirty laundry on national tv.. I have no respect for these two people - none..

ditto.

[3prettyprincesses]

Originally Posted by Imzadi

Are you kidding? That was the most telling thing he said. What I heard was RELIEF to be free from the noose and oppression she is around his neck, the domination, the criticisms, the fighting, etc. He gets to have his identity & self back again.

No I'm not kidding. Are you? I agree it was the most telling thing he said and I stand by my comment that he is a selfish man. How can he say that about this whole mess on camera?? Jon isn't innocent in this at all. But it's ok because he's excited about the new chapter in his life. Sounds like a responsible father of 8 to me. Imagine the kids watching that years from now...they get to hear their own father say that he's excited during the show where they announced their seperation. Very insensitive IMO. I guess his new identity is great then...cheating on his wife with a 23 year old girl who made a sex tape with her ex-boyfriend, who's brother has a horrible criminal record, spending time with this same girl in Utah on his wife's b-day and now Jon's dressing like a frat guy, pierced his ears, looking for apartments in NYC and so on. He is exhibiting the behavior of someone who wants to make up for lost time and sow his wild oats. That's my opinion anyway...

[Tweevil]

-He's excited and she's crushed--

I think if I saw my parents saying this I would be mad - crooked houses or not. One thing I think is that while he may have been bossed around there are other ways of handling things like discussing it and working it out. I think he's immature and is showing it now. I like how he is also quick to jump from the "schedule" if he is offered a job and he is excited and such... what a loser. It seems like he is a-ok with this and let the party begin. I think she made her decision a long time ago what was important and maybe she had to step up to be the dominate one in the family because spineless couldn't... it went too far and she liked the attention she was getting and therefore the the show will go on. I also believe that all of her thoughts regarding walking the kids was teamwork and yada yada is a wee bit too late - sour grapes I guess.

If you ask me they are both at fault - him for not being man enough to stand up and say things have to change with how he was treated and her not being content with her most important role - being a mom to those kids that she holds over the reason for everything that they have done.

I bet if truth be known, I bet the kids would rather have two parents that work together and love each other instead of two monsters who have their own best interests, desires, and stupidity at the forefront.

I think this is best - and TLC needs to promote other shows because this one is a trilogy of what not to do in a marriage... so very very sad...

I feel for the kids, the little ones are just precious and darling, cara is beautiful and mady needs her knickers readjusted but she's cute all the same...

Just my opinion... signing off now.....