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Old 03-07-2013, 01:37 PM   #1
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BWV or BCV Direct (CORRECTION TO EARLIER POST)

So, I have a dilemma. I reached out to Disney to look into adding 100 points or so a beach club villas about a month ago. Then I got the invite for the webcast and they are offering $1000 off 100 points plus two park passes which I happen to need for my upcoming trip.

The catch is, that offer is not available on BCV points, but I could get 100 BWV points.

I currently own BWV and AKV but I wanted to add to BC. Should I just add the point at BWV and take advantage of the almost $1700 savings?

Have any of you had luck booking BCV at the 7 month window?

I hear price per point is set to rise the end of March so even if I did buy 100 BCV, the value of my purchase will be going up shortly after I buy.

Any thoughts would be welcomed!
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Old 03-07-2013, 01:48 PM   #2
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You can spend about $250,000 during the life of your contracts, is $1000 off plus 2 park passes worth buying at a BWV when you really want BCV? Disney isn't offering any deals at BCV because they don't have to, it's a popular resort and they are short on points.

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Old 03-07-2013, 01:53 PM   #3
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Gosh, that is very hard and I'm glad I never had to make that choice. We had 250 BWV points, when I began looking to stay at BCV. Our DGC got older and we really wanted a dedicated 2 bedroom with the 2 queen beds, so little by little we acquired 180 BCV points. I do book BCV at 11 months for 4th of July time frame and F&W time.

I love the Standard view point savings at BWV and use that for Flower and Garden time and over New years.

As far as "luck" getting into BCV at 7 months. I've been able to do it for studios, but I have never tried for more than 5 nights. I usually would book friends at BWV for say, 4th of July, and then move them to studios at BCV right at 7 months. It has worked, but mostly these friends stayed shorter than we did, mostly 3 nights.

Have you ever stayed at BCV at all? Is it the pool that's calling you? I know when I swim in the lazy river part, I just love love the fact that I have BCV points and I know I can book it for the times I need it.

But $1700 is a lot of money. I just don't know if I could pass that up.

When I say, I acquired BCV points, it was direct and in lots of 25 to 40 points. It took me awhile, and I did pay $105 for some of them and this was over a period of 4 years I guess. I mostly had to go on waitlists, the longest one was a few weeks. This was a time when BCV was around $85-$90 resale, and I didn't think I was overpaying by buying direct.

Have you ruled out going the resale route? Just asking.
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Old 03-07-2013, 02:03 PM   #4
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I have four kids and have not yet stayed at Beach Club. Let's be honest, as far as kids are concerned, the pool is their favorite attraction and SAB is definitely driving my interest. I also love F&W and while I will always be able to book at the 11 month window at BWV, I think it would be really nice to have a choice.

Also, if I ever had to sell them, it seems like BCV would sell faster no?

I did look into resales but I have a Dec UY and those are few and far between. Also, I get the impression that due to the current offers, ROFR is going to be exercised a lot more often than it has been.

When I called last month, there was barely any wait for BWV or BCV from Disney direct, but now there is a 3 month wait.

Are all BCV 2 bedrooms dedicated?

I would always be getting a 2 BDR because of the size of our family so another thought is maybe I don't want to spread myself too thin on points in different resorts.

I'm also doing direct because I would finance it at the 8%. Lastly, I do see myself using my points for Adventures by Disney down the road. The trips seem awesome and with such a large family it would be great to have a guided tour which I'm sure is done as only Disney could do.
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...(snip).....Are all BCV 2 bedrooms dedicated?............
No they are not. There are 3 booking categories for 2 bedrooms at BCV:

1. Dedicated with two queen beds in the second bedroom. These are the most popular and usually book up first.

2. Dedicated with one queen bed and one queen sleep sofa in the second bedroom.

3. Lock off 2 bedroom. This has a studio as the second bedroom and so it has one queen bed and one double sleep sofa.

I do not know exactly how many of each there are. There are 78 dedicated 2 bedrooms - split between booking categories 1 & 2. There are 74 lock off 2 bedrooms, but a large proportion of those are booked as 1 bedrooms and studios. I would guess that the proportion varies depending upon demand.
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What Carol says, not all 2 bedrooms are dedicated at BCV, and really few, maybe under 30, have the 2 queens in the second bedroom. Still, since BWV doesn't have ANY dedicated never mind having 2 queens in the second bedroom, it's an improvement. Since DH and I do take the master, that leaves DS/DDiL and the 3 children to decide who uses the queen pull out,and the 2 queens. So, with your family that's another plus for BCV.

You are getting something for the extra money, surer access SAB, better chance to book dedicated 2 bedrooms with 2 queens, a slightly lesser walk to Epcot, but a definitely better parking area if you have your own car.

I do think BCV will sell better in the resale market.

How many nights would 100 points get you in a two bedroom at BCV for the times you really want? Are you willing to do a split stay? If you book x days at BWV and y days at BCV, each at 11 months, you can try to get it all at BCV, but you know you'll have some of the days there. That's what you're buying. How would you feel if you ARE able to move right at 7 months, would you rue your decision to buy at BCV, or chalk it up? If you can just shrug it off, I would agree with Bill, your heart is telling you BCV,and if you can afford it, go for it!

Heck, we own at VB, we love VB, and the MFs are high, and people do get in at 7 months. BUT DH loves the Beach Cottages and really would only stay there if we had enough points. So, we do family Beach Cottage vacations. There aren't many of them, so we think it's worth it. Others may disagree.

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Old 03-07-2013, 07:01 PM   #7
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That is good information. I realize Adventures isn't the best way to spend points, but I like it as an option if we were to ever get bored of Disney (imagine that!).

The kids are still young, four under 6, so we are early in our stays with young kids.

I really do love the idea of BCV and if I did use my points I would probably bank and borrow so I had enough to do a full week at BCV and then keep banking the others and borrowing so I could use those for full week stays, alternating at home resorts. I think the 100 would be enough so I could get a total of 300 to use.

I also heard there is going to be a price increase very soon, so while I'm not taking advantage of the $1000 and 2 park passes, I am going to get on the waiting list before the prices go up.

I don't think I will be diappointed if it opens up at 7 months because if I want to go during a popular time (when the kids get older and I can't take them out of school), then I will definitely need to book at the 11 month window to get into BCV due to the lesser number of rooms.

It is just that everywhere I look, everyone LOVES BCV, so that is also the draw for me.
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......(snip)......I'm also doing direct because I would finance it at the 8%. Lastly, I do see myself using my points for Adventures by Disney down the road. The trips seem awesome and with such a large family it would be great to have a guided tour which I'm sure is done as only Disney could do.
Adventures BY Disney is a very expensive use of points, especially if you are financing. Those trips also take a LOT of points.

2013 Adventures BY Disney Point Chart

The points listed on the chart are per person. They can (and do) go up every year.
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