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Old 01-10-2013, 07:22 PM   #1
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Thoughts on child support

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If a child (18 1/2 yrs) is not attending college, has a job making $11 an hour with a 401k, health benefits and paid vacation days..... should the parent whom he or she does not live with be paying support???? State law says until 21 but he/she is virtually self supporting. What do you think would happen in court???????????????????? Anyone have any experience with this kind of thing?
Technically the child is not living with dad but with grandparent in grandparents house. Dad happens to live there too.
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Old 01-10-2013, 07:24 PM   #2
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Just looking for opinions, not a debate.
If a child (18 1/2 yrs) is not attending college, has a job making $11 an hour with a 401k, health benefits and paid vacation days..... should the parent whom he or she does not live with be paying support???? State law says until 21 but he/she is virtually self supporting. What do you think would happen in court???????????????????? Anyone have any experience with this kind of thing?
Technically the child is not living with dad but with grandparent in grandparents house. Dad happens to live there too.
In New York, child support will still be ordered. Lots of experience with this in my husband's family.
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Old 01-10-2013, 07:26 PM   #3
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Just looking for opinions, not a debate.
If a child (18 1/2 yrs) is not attending college, has a job making $11 an hour with a 401k, health benefits and paid vacation days..... should the parent whom he or she does not live with be paying support???? State law says until 21 but he/she is virtually self supporting. What do you think would happen in court???????????????????? Anyone have any experience with this kind of thing?
Technically the child is not living with dad but with grandparent in grandparents house. Dad happens to live there too.
Well, if Dad has that as his legal residence(aka mail address) he DOES live there. I can see support being ordered if the court was approached because the legal parameters say untill 21, against the Mother.
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Old 01-10-2013, 07:26 PM   #4
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Just looking for opinions, not a debate.
If a child (18 1/2 yrs) is not attending college, has a job making $11 an hour with a 401k, health benefits and paid vacation days..... should the parent whom he or she does not live with be paying support???? State law says until 21 but he/she is virtually self supporting. What do you think would happen in court???????????????????? Anyone have any experience with this kind of thing?
Technically the child is not living with dad but with grandparent in grandparents house. Dad happens to live there too.
If the law in that state is until 21 then it will probably stay like that. Most states are not until 21. I think it's wrong until age 21.
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Old 01-10-2013, 07:39 PM   #5
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Regardless, of how it seems like it should be, if the law says 21, it's 21. Right or wrong, it doesn't really matter how much the child works. Child Support is to pay for the housing, food, etc. that are considered needs. The child working never comes into question. In AR, it is 18 or graduation from HS, whichever is later. I've known people who were paying child support for kids that spent almost all the time with them. However, due to knowing the ex only wanted the money, would rather pay the money and have the child staying with them and happy.
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Old 01-10-2013, 07:48 PM   #6
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Dad's sperm = dad's son = dad has to follow the law.
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Old 01-10-2013, 07:52 PM   #7
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Dad's sperm = dad's son = dad has to follow the law.
I may be wrong, but I think you stereotyped. This sounds like Mom's egg=mom's son=mom has to follow the law. I think the OP mentioned dad lives with parents and child lives in same house.
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I may be wrong, but I think you stereotyped. This sounds like Mom's egg=mom's son=mom has to follow the law. I think the OP mentioned dad lives with parents and child lives in same house.

Sorry, you're right, I did. "Mom's egg=mom's son=mom has to follow the law."
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Old 01-10-2013, 07:32 PM   #9
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I know the laws are constantly changing, but my DH had wording in his divorce papers that if his son became emancipated before the age of 21, then the child support would stop. Emancipated was defined as: not enrolled in school, joins the military, gets married, has a child or obtains a full-time job. The wording was based on the laws at the time the divorce became final.
My DSS graduated college a few months before his 22nd birthday, so my DH paid until that birthday.
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Old 01-10-2013, 07:38 PM   #10
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The law says until 21 unless the child is deemed emancipated. Hard to prove when the child lives in the family home.
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Just looking for opinions, not a debate.
If a child (18 1/2 yrs) is not attending college, has a job making $11 an hour with a 401k, health benefits and paid vacation days..... should the parent whom he or she does not live with be paying support???? State law says until 21 but he/she is virtually self supporting. What do you think would happen in court???????????????????? Anyone have any experience with this kind of thing?
Technically the child is not living with dad but with grandparent in grandparents house. Dad happens to live there too.
I don't understand your last sentence...they actually do live together right? In the grandparents' house?

Also, I would ask if $11/hour is enough to be self-supporting? Around here it would definitely not be. Is the kid living rent-free? That's not self-supporting.

You're asking for opinions on what-whether dad should follow the law or whether the law is fair?
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Old 01-10-2013, 08:02 PM   #12
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If poverty level is considered $10,830 for one person. Child is making 22,880 a year for himself. Wouldn't that qualify as the ability to self support? If a parent chooses to let the child live rent free, should the other parent have to "pick up the slack" and help ex pay his/her mortgage/rent?
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If poverty level is considered $10,830 for one person. Child is making 22,880 a year for himself. Wouldn't that qualify as the ability to self support? If a parent chooses to let the child live rent free, should the other parent have to "pick up the slack" and help ex pay his/her mortgage/rent?
Are you still talking about the situation in your OP? The child is living with grandparents you said, not the other parent. Is the kid giving the other parent part of the child support?
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Old 01-10-2013, 08:10 PM   #14
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Are you still talking about the situation in your OP? The child is living with grandparents you said, not the other parent. Is the kid giving the other parent part of the child support?
Yes still talking about same situation. Child is living under grandmas roof with dad. Dad is getting divorce #3 as we speak. Child is not giving grandma or dad any $ towards mortgage.
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Yes still talking about same situation. Child is living under grandmas roof with dad. Dad is getting divorce #3 as we speak. Child is not giving grandma or dad any $ towards mortgage.
Why would anyone give dad money? It's grandmas house not dad's. Who is supposed to be paying the child support? Mom or Dad?
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