If Everest doesn't get yeti refurb after Pandora opening, when?

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Look I never got to experience the yeti working but I don't think Vekoma builds mountains. That's WDI.

I realize that...but why settle and make it "ok"?

Everest was announced - if you may recall - at the start of the Eisner/roy proxy battle. In fact...it was always too convenient how it was "greenlit" and old Mikey did a presser to announce it. I'll have to see if it's out there on YouTube.

In it...true story...they talked about the yeti, yeti, yeti and a little about the switchtrack ride. The "building" wasn't the stress point.

I know you love ak...and that's ok. I like it a lot...it will never be my favorite but it's a close second with two others down there...but still.

But the standard defense of ak is that people don't "get it" and it's all about the "detail". First - the detail is great...but with that there is an embedded attempt to distract from the substance...which ak has never completed. Mgm hasn't either...but nobody makes studios out to be modern art.

"The mountain is wdi"...falls
Along that "you don't get it" line. I know they went outsource and got screwed...but that doesn't mean "oh well, it's still great. It's six flags in beta mode...they can do that.

The ride was built with 3 components and arguably the most important element doesn't work.

I'm just gonna use their own ammo against them:
they build "attractions" that tell a storyline...not just "rides". Cedar point and magic mountain build "rides"...anybody - vekoma - can hire an engineer and build a tubular steel coaster.

Can't dance on this line...either it's "more" or it's just a ride not worthy of Disney or the price tag.

I know...never an inch from me...but tell me how I'm misinterpreting it and the bar should be "lowered"? I'm tough but fair.
 
I think the point about it being too busy after Pandora opens is a valid one. When the DHS projects open and take away some load, then I think you'll see EE go down for extended refurb. Maybe update some things and add features that were never in it, similar to big thunder. If the yeti is fixable, that would be the time to do it.
I do think the foundation crack is a bit of a red herring, as I feel like there are are likely several ways to disperse the load. However, that is easy to monday morning quarterback. The animatronic load issues, sure seems very plausible. If it requires work on those joints more routinely, and it wasn't built to have a technician hanging of it safely on a regular basis, that an expensive problem. As mentioned most do not know the Yeti ever moved.
I sure as heck wouldn't mind a different head rest on that thing. I always end up with a headache from the backwards part of the ride, no matter how well I prepare.
 
Without the yeti...Everest is a $30 mil vekoma off the shelf rollercoaster and a $250 million dollar queue...

Twist it however you want...but it's not a wdi ride otherwise.

So when we break up over "I still like it...", I won't say "it's not you, it's me..."

...because it's "you"

Demand more...stop making excuses at higher prices.

LOL at LOL. That's nuts man. I perfectly understand why they haven't fixed it, but I believe they will eventually. The Yeti moving its arm or not doesn't make the difference in it being an "off the shelf" ride or not. Sheesh.
 


A crying shame is Dueling Dragons at IOA, now Dragon Challenge. They now send the dragons out staggered, greatly reducing the whole point of the attraction.

Still our favorite ride over there though.

For anyone that hasn't seen the "duel" of the intertwined tracks and dragons. check the video at 1:10, and at 1:21 barreling straight towards the other dragon and at 1:24 when the other riders feet almost touch, the last duel is at 1:41.

May as well be 2 separate runs of track in opposite directions now.

And most riders have no clue it ever had that capability as well.

 
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A crying shame is Dueling Dragons at IOA, now Dragon Challenge. They now send the dragons out staggered, greatly reducing the whole point of the attraction.

Still our favorite ride over there though.

For anyone that hasn't seen the "duel" of the intertwined tracks and dragons. check the video at 1:10, and at 1:21 barreling straight towards the other dragon and at 1:24 when the other riders feet almost touch, the last duel is at 1:41.

May as well be 2 separate runs of track in opposite directions now.

And most riders have no clue it ever had that capability as well.


Wouldn't the analogy be if they used to actually HAVE a dragon...but now instead of actually seeing it...you went over a cardboard box around it?
 
Wouldn't the analogy be if they used to actually HAVE a dragon...but now instead of actually seeing it...you went over a cardboard box around it?

You used to actually see the opposing dueling dragon, now its not even there. But yes, the Yeti is at least still there-just not moving its arm.

Point was more that unexpected things happen.
 
You used to actually see the opposing dueling dragon, now its not even there. But yes, the Yeti is at least still there-just not moving its arm.

Point was more unexpected things happen.

Intentionally...not hard to sort the quarters from the nickels here.

Is universal replacing the Kong ride the same as wonders of life?
 
Intentionally...not hard to sort the quarters from the nickels here.

Is universal replacing the Kong ride the same as wonders of life?

Both had lack of foresight. DD just got the worst of the two IMO.
 
I don't think there's any link at all between the Yeti getting repaired and Pandora opening. Disney did nothing about the Yeti during the period between it breaking down and when Pandora was announced (forget how long that was, but its been a while) so why would they bother once Pandora opens?
 
I don't think there's any link at all between the Yeti getting repaired and Pandora opening. Disney did nothing about the Yeti during the period between it breaking down and when Pandora was announced (forget how long that was, but its been a while) so why would they bother once Pandora opens?
Because people assume pandora would take people away from Everest where they could get a refurb done. While it's possible Pandora will likely bring more people to AK than ever before.
 
I also feel like a lot of guests don't even know the Yeti is supposed to move. When I was there last, our party was talking about this while in the queue and all the people around us had no idea about the Disco Yeti and it's former glory.
Some people think he's moving, thanks to the strobe effect. I'm telling you, I saw him working and it isn't as big of deal as some of you are out to make it be. Would it be great if his arm swung at you... yes. But like someone else's said, you see him for a second. The ride is still great. How about we worry about other things like replacing dinoland with something equal to the rest of the park rather than worry about a 1 second effect that does not change the ride experience, imo.
 
This got me thinking. If they fixed the yeti the ride would be theoretically scarier right? So would people complain that the ride is now too scary for their kids? People complain about practically everything these days.
 
This got me thinking. If they fixed the yeti the ride would be theoretically scarier right? So would people complain that the ride is now too scary for their kids? People complain about practically everything these days.

I have no doubt people would be mad about that or the fact that it got fixed. It's not a new phenomenon, you cannot please all of the people all of the time.
 
This got me thinking. If they fixed the yeti the ride would be theoretically scarier right? So would people complain that the ride is now too scary for their kids? People complain about practically everything these days.
No. There's isn't much difference between moving arm and non-moving strove lit arm. I'm telling you. I don't get the obsession here...
 
No. There's isn't much difference between moving arm and non-moving strove lit arm. I'm telling you. I don't get the obsession here...
It was just a question. I have never experienced it with the moving arm.
 
Over the years there have been lots of rumors and speculation as to what the real problem is. I saw this posted recently on another message board. Of all the explanations I have read this one has the best provenance and provide a very plausible explanation for the issues and for why they haven't been fixed.

"Ok, so back in September I was at a conference at WDW, and the wife decided to book a Dine With An Imagineer lunch at DHS. I skipped one of my educational sessions to do this, and we ended up with a 2-for-1. The main imagineer was a Show Design and Production manager, who was a DWAI veteran (and most recently involved in the Frozen Ever After project); the other guy was a mechanical engineer in charge of show quality, who was a newbie-in-training, at least when it came to these dinners. He explained to us that it was his job to do periodic "reviews" of the rides, and point out areas where show quality is falling below certain standards. He's also heavily involved in maintaining ride systems and animatronics. It was a fantastic experience, and we learned a lot about how things work behind the scenes, but nearing the end of our time, I (obviously) couldn't resist bringing up the Yeti.

Immediately upon my mentioning the Yeti, I could see that it was an obvious a sore spot for him. He stated that there have been multiple proposals put forth for repairing it, but none of the "big shots" have been on board. As for the specific problem, he mentioned that there are a couple of factors: flaws in the original "design calculations" (these were his words), particularly with regard to operational and maintenance conditions on such a large animatronic, and inability to perform proper maintenance on the Yeti. No mention of "shifting/failed foundations" as is often suggested. As a practicing structural engineer, I wanted to know whether this was the problem, and he indicated that the main issue is the animatronic itself.

The other factor is the ability to perform maintenance on the animatronic. I think this is the source of rumors that they "can't replace /fix it without opening up the mountain" rumors, but it's actually much simpler, and this issue ties into the first. He specifically talked about unanticipated stresses in parts of the animatronic due to lack of maintenance in other parts. If one of the motors in the yeti's elbow wears out or isn't functioning properly, but they continue to operate under those conditions, then higher stresses are transferred to the shoulder and chest, etc. My best guess regarding his comments about "incorrect calculations" is that he was referring to fatigue related problems in the robotic parts, and possibly in other structural supports.

The other major factor is that things have changed dramatically at WDW in the last few years regarding their compliance with OSHA standards for maintenance and fall protection. Any new work done to get the Yeti operational means that they have to update the design to meet these standards, so that ongoing maintenance on the animatronic can be safely performed. This would involve major upgrades to allow compliance with fall protection and other things related to maintenance workers.

It was encouraging at least to see how much it bothered him that it didn't work. He brought up the Universal dig re: their Kong animatronic (it moves...) and said that he and his colleagues all read blogs and other social media comments for research and to pick up on things they miss in their reviews. So, there you have it. Take it for what it's worth, but this guy was no bus driver..."

Very interesting, thanks for sharing.
 
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