Disneyland at Christmas/Holiday Season Superthread #5

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Just booked our flights for last week of December-early January! So excited!! I can't wait! First time to celebrate Christmas at DLR. I've never seen fireworks and stayed during late hours there too. Last time we went in 2013 was during weekdays and off-season. Many firsts for my family still. :banana::bounce:
 
Even though there is no real "expected" news yet beyond what we already know -- which is that there will be no Christmas parade, holiday fireworks or holiday World of Color this year -- every week I still hope that the Parks Blog will surprise us with an early announcement of some kind. And that very well could happen IF there is anything new and significant coming to the holiday season at DLR this year. Two years ago, when World of Color-Winter Dreams made its debut, the Parks Blog actually told us about it in the summer (I think it was July). And in 2012, when they decided to run the 20 nights of the Candlelight Ceremony, they told us about it in August.

So... I am hopeful that if the rumor of the return of the Christmas star (to the top of the Matterhorn) turns out to be true, we will find out about it via the Parks Blog in July or August. They could do a 'teaser' blog with a clue, just as they did about the return of the Hatbox Ghost, and then make an actual announcement later on.

The holiday season is a big, big deal at DLR, and I keep thinking they're going to do something special for the holidays in conjunction with the celebration of the 60th anniversary (something that we haven't heard anything about). I can picture them skimping on Halloween Time because they kind of skimp on it anyway (in a lot of ways), but, again, the holidays are a huge, popular, money-making season for DLR, and usually quite immersive, so I don't think they will let us down.

The Diamond Days Sweepstakes is ending in September -- before Halloween Time begins, presumably -- so that won't be going on during the holidays. Drat! But who knows? Maybe they will add in some special one-day events or contests in the Fall.

As for decorations -- from what I have seen in photos, the Castle looks pretty in its current Diamond motif at night... but (in my opinion) not as pretty as it looks when it is lit up in icicle lights during the holiday season. So if it is going to stay in its current mode for the rest of the year, that's unfortunate, as I think that seeing the glowing Castle, shimmering in the distance from Town Square, is a highlight after dark in Nov-Dec.

Also, in reading some commentary around the Internet, a couple of reports indicated that the "Diamond Celebration" décor around the parks (primarily DL) is not really pervasive. The reports seemed to indicate that there are a lot of areas around Disneyland where there is no décor at all, or maybe just a random banner here and there. There is nothing fun like during the 50th anniversary, when there were gold things everywhere (50 gold hidden Mickeys with "50" on them around the park, and gold ride vehicles).

So, in some ways it seems that the 60th anniversary is toned down in comparison to the 50th, and in other ways it seems that it is ramped up. Either way, I think that the decorations for the holiday season will take center stage, and will not be overshadowed by the 60th stuff. However, it has been speculated that there will probably not be any garland suspended over Main Street this year. I guess it won't work with Soundsational and with Paint the Night. I wonder if that means no Mickey-shaped wreaths anywhere to be found??

In other news.... Hobby Lobby is apparently the first store to reveal signs of the coming holidays on its shelves! HL already has shelves full of Halloween and Thanksgiving-ish stuff, and has begun to get Christmas supplies in stock as well! :lmao:




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In other news.... Hobby Lobby is apparently the first store to reveal signs of the coming holidays on its shelves! HL already has shelves full of Halloween and Thanksgiving-ish stuff, and has begun to get Christmas supplies in stock as well! :lmao:




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You know that I love the holidays as much as anyone, but it's MAY!! That's worse than selling bathing suits the end of December, because people might be going somewhere tropical. No one needs Christmas decor in May! I almost want to go work at Hobby Lobby this week just to tell people not to buy the stuff ... it would be a very short job.

In other holiday news, I saw several cartons of Pumpkin Pie Dreyers ice cream in the freezer of my Safeway. Assuming they didn't get it at Hobby Lobby, I guess someone finally cleaned the very back of their freezer. :crazy2:

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You know that I love the holidays as much as anyone, but it's MAY!! That's worse than selling bathing suits the end of December, because people might be going somewhere tropical. No one needs Christmas decor in May! I almost want to go work at Hobby Lobby this week just to tell people not to buy the stuff ... it would be a very short job.

In other holiday news, I saw several cartons of Pumpkin Pie Dreyers ice cream in the freezer of my Safeway. Assuming they didn't get it at Hobby Lobby, I guess someone finally cleaned the very back of their freezer. :crazy2:

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I don't "celebrate" the holidays quite this early in the year -- meaning, I am not listening to Christmas songs all day, watching Christmas movies all day and eating peppermint ice cream at this time of year -- but I don't have a problem with holiday things appearing in random stores. I'm not buying whatever they have in stock (I don't even know if there is a Hobby Lobby in my area!), so it doesn't impact me one way or the other. I'm also not celebrating Halloween in May. I think it's funny when seasonal items appear early!

But I am looking forward to Christmas in July movies, because I can't stand summer and that will be one little bright spot for me in the middle of July (for about 10 days)!

Really, though, I think that craft stores get a pass as far as getting holiday things in stock early. People who craft, either for a living or as a passionate hobby, may need to get a very early start if they plan to get involved in detailed, elaborate, extensive Halloween-Thanksgiving-Christmas projects. I am not a serious crafter, so I have no clue how long it takes to complete certain projects, but I would assume that it could take a while -- especially if mistakes are made and they need to start over or correct them before the actual holiday festivities roll around.

It definitely sounds as though your Safeway found some extra Pumpkin ice cream cartons in a storage room freezer somewhere and decided to trot them out. :lmao: I fully expected to see stray cartons of Peppermint Wonderland on the shelves of my local CVS' freezer this year -- as I did last year, in April -- but there are none to be found, which is good. I like to have a good stretch of time without that ice cream in my life, so I can work up the craving to eat it again (when it officially hits the shelves again in September). I actually can't remember when I last ate peppermint ice cream now. I can't recall if it was December or January? In any case, by the time it comes out again, I will be in the mood for it.
 


Sherry, you seem to be a peppermint ice cream expert :) I used to love this flavor but am now not able to eat it for the candy pieces. Are there any smooth peppermints? I would love that. I know I could eat around the candy bits or melt them in cocoa. More seriously, thank you early and always for all your work on here for Christmas thread. You know I am still hoping Candlelight is expanded this year and that we do hear a little earlier anyway. I am planning on first weekend in December otherwise.

There has been talk on here of no Christmas parade this year. I wanted to be sure I understand that means not taped Christmas Parade that airs on TV. The parade at Disneyland (I think most afternoons) will still be on,r right? I got to see part of it last year and would love to view it all, looked so cute. :)
 
Sherry, you seem to be a peppermint ice cream expert :) I used to love this flavor but am now not able to eat it for the candy pieces. Are there any smooth peppermints? I would love that. I know I could eat around the candy bits or melt them in cocoa. More seriously, thank you early and always for all your work on here for Christmas thread. You know I am still hoping Candlelight is expanded this year and that we do hear a little earlier anyway. I am planning on first weekend in December otherwise.

There has been talk on here of no Christmas parade this year. I wanted to be sure I understand that means not taped Christmas Parade that airs on TV. The parade at Disneyland (I think most afternoons) will still be on,r right? I got to see part of it last year and would love to view it all, looked so cute. :)

I'm sure there must be smooth peppermint ice cream somewhere out there, but it probably wouldn't be as tasty because I think the crushed bits add the extra flavor. The Slow Churned variety of Peppermint Wonderland seems to have fewer candy pieces in it -- sometimes almost none -- but, in my opinion, it just doesn't taste good. It tastes like frozen toothpaste.

My guess is that Candlelight won't be expanded this year -- or any time soon -- because the way the 2012 expansion was handled didn't work well for Disney. They tried to do too much by having it run for 20 nights, and that, in turn, caused Main Street businesses to lose money. Disney got scared off from the idea of wanting to expand it again. If they had just run it for half as many nights in 2012, or maybe 8 nights (over 4 weekends or something), it probably would have worked out better for them.

However, that said, IF ever there were a time for a Candlelight expansion again, this would be the year for it -- as Disney is celebrating its 60 years and various nostalgic elements. Candlelight has been there since almost the beginning. Either way, expansion or no expansion, I have no doubt that it will take place on December 5th and 6th. There is no reason why the traditional weekend should change.

Supposedly there will be no Christmas parade this year. I guess that could always change, but Disney said (back in January) that the 60th anniversary shows would still be happening all year long, and in one piece of audio I heard (which I can no longer locate!) someone from Disney said that there would be no holiday shows this year, to keep the focus on the 60th anniversary. And one of our DIS'ers was kind enough to report on it and confirm it in this thread. Even beyond that, it was reported on MiceAge/MiceChat (an unofficial source of news) that there would be no Christmas parade this year, as well as no holiday fireworks. The loss of the holiday fireworks is not too surprising, as they did not run during the 50th anniversary year either. So it was to be expected that they would not run this year.

The loss of the Christmas parade is more surprising -- IF it holds true -- but the fact that they have a brand new nighttime parade this year is why the Christmas parade isn't happening. They will likely run Soundsational during the day, and Paint the Night after dark, if all of the information turns out to be correct. And that would probably mean no garland hanging over Main Street.

There will still be some sort of taping for ABC in early November, but it will probably focus on other entertainment/shows, or maybe even on Paint the Night.

Interestingly, looking around on the Internet I was reminded of how Disney was apparently considering moving A Christmas Fantasy Parade over to DCA back in 2005, which was met with a lot of resistance from DLR fans, as DCA was lacking in Christmas cheer at that point. Disney, of course, changed the plan and never moved ACFP to DCA. Now that DCA has gotten much more involved in the holiday season (though it still has a different 'personality' than Disneyland), I wonder if they will ever revisit the idea of having the Christmas parade in DCA (either as nightly entertainment or as part of a hard ticket Christmas party)?
 
We have been there the last 2 Decembers and no FP on IASWH.

We were happy to find FP on Haunted Mansion Holiday last year though after waiting through that crazy long line a couple times in 2013........ big life improvement. ;)

They were a lifesaver for us too when it ended up being my 4 year old's favorite ride of the trip last year. We used the heck out of the HMH FP and the ride window usually started not long after getting the passes. Stop back and check the machines even if the sign out front says they're not distributing. They forgot to change the sign on at least one occasion during our visit.
 


Thank you very much Sherry for your detailed reply. I appreciate it. Lol to frozen toothpaste that doesn't sound too appetizing. I also agree that slow churned I typically don't care for because not as much sugar or sweet. I remember years ago, I mean YEARS, ago when I was visiting my Grandma in TX there was a Marble Slab Creamery. They had an awesome smooth chocolate mint ice cream. It looked just like chocolate ice cream but was mint flavored.

ITA on what you said about Candlelight. I realize MK has more space for it. Still it would be lovely to have it expanded at least one or two weeknights so not quite as packed over the one weekend and maybe a teeny bit more public friendly.

I am not a fireworks fan so that is no loss for me. I enjoy the colors just not the noise. I was hoping to see the daytime Christmas parade this year. I guess we shall see.

A fast pass for IASW would be awesome at Christmas time same with the Jingle Cruise!
 
Sooooo looking foreward to our Holiday/Birthday/60th trip this year. Even without the Christmas parade. Im just wondering if they'll have the Nightmare before Christmas overlay for the Haunted Mansion...or will they leave it be so that Hatbox Ghost can be seen...or will they give him a jolly Santa hat?
 
I'm sick Sinus infection, but every day I make sure and enter us in the weekly drawing. I swear Disney is whats keeping me going right now. LOL can't wait and I am wondering about the HM hatbox Ghost to. I want to see him so hope they keep him.
 
In another thread (asking about an end date for the Diamond Celebration), fellow DIS'er Fantaluminishes mentioned the possibility that It's a Small World Holiday's façade might not be decorated this year (in the famous colored lights that make it stand out and shine like a beacon in the night)! It's not a rumor or fact or anything. It's just a possibility of something that could happen. I'm sure that the inside of the ride would still get the overlay, but it's the outside that may be left alone.

That was something I had never really considered, as I think that the IASWH façade was at least partially decorated/colored in 2005, during the 50th anniversary. Wasn't it? (sgrap, you were there during the 50th -- do you remember colored lights on IASWH?)

If, for some reason, that happens, I think it will be too much. I know that there will be some changes during both Halloween Time and the Holidays due to the 60th, but I think there is such a thing as too many changes. No garland over Main Street, no Christmas parade, no holiday fireworks, no holiday World of Color and no Winter Castle shining in icicle lights -- that is enough of a loss. If IASWH is not lit up in color at night -- which is one of the biggest highlights of the holiday season -- I will be really disappointed. There has to be a balance of 60th anniversary and holidays. It's possible to still celebrate the 60th anniversary and celebrate the holidays too -- just because the holidays will have begun doesn't mean that the Diamond Celebration will have ended, after all!
 
Since Disneyland is having Soundsational run during the day, I do not see any reason they could not have a daytime Christmas parade... I am wondering if this is the start of moving it into a hard ticket event.
 
I wish they would do a good mixture of the holiday season and the 60th anniversary. Two celebrations would be fun! It's my first time going during the holidays and while I'm excited to see the 60th anniversary decor and shows, I don't want to lose the holiday cheer.
 
In another thread (asking about an end date for the Diamond Celebration), fellow DIS'er Fantaluminishes mentioned the possibility that It's a Small World Holiday's façade might not be decorated this year (in the famous colored lights that make it stand out and shine like a beacon in the night)! It's not a rumor or fact or anything. It's just a possibility of something that could happen. I'm sure that the inside of the ride would still get the overlay, but it's the outside that may be left alone.

That was something I had never really considered, as I think that the IASWH façade was at least partially decorated/colored in 2005, during the 50th anniversary. Wasn't it? (sgrap, you were there during the 50th -- do you remember colored lights on IASWH?)

If, for some reason, that happens, I think it will be too much. I know that there will be some changes during both Halloween Time and the Holidays due to the 60th, but I think there is such a thing as too many changes. No garland over Main Street, no Christmas parade, no holiday fireworks, no holiday World of Color and no Winter Castle shining in icicle lights -- that is enough of a loss. If IASWH is not lit up in color at night -- which is one of the biggest highlights of the holiday season -- I will be really disappointed. There has to be a balance of 60th anniversary and holidays. It's possible to still celebrate the 60th anniversary and celebrate the holidays too -- just because the holidays will have begun doesn't mean that the Diamond Celebration will have ended, after all!



Sherry, if that turned out to be the case, it would be one step too far. It would tick ME off....... and right now I don't even have plans of being there that time of year! :rotfl2:

I have said all along that they need to take the free holiday stuff away before they can add a hard ticket Christmas party....... but I just can't believe they would do that. I look at IASWH as DLR's version of the Osborne lights at DHS.

They have to have SOME degree of the holidays visible in the parks every day. If they take away the castle icicle lights and the Christmas parade, that would be too much. I know MK at WDW only decorates Main Street for the holidays, but they at least have the option of buying a ticket for a Christmas party if you want more. So far DLR does not, and I'm just not seeing this as the year the hard ticket party rolls out there. (I think next year is far more likely).

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In another thread (asking about an end date for the Diamond Celebration), fellow DIS'er Fantaluminishes mentioned the possibility that It's a Small World Holiday's façade might not be decorated this year (in the famous colored lights that make it stand out and shine like a beacon in the night)! It's not a rumor or fact or anything. It's just a possibility of something that could happen. I'm sure that the inside of the ride would still get the overlay, but it's the outside that may be left alone.

That was something I had never really considered, as I think that the IASWH façade was at least partially decorated/colored in 2005, during the 50th anniversary. Wasn't it? (sgrap, you were there during the 50th -- do you remember colored lights on IASWH?)

If, for some reason, that happens, I think it will be too much. I know that there will be some changes during both Halloween Time and the Holidays due to the 60th, but I think there is such a thing as too many changes. No garland over Main Street, no Christmas parade, no holiday fireworks, no holiday World of Color and no Winter Castle shining in icicle lights -- that is enough of a loss. If IASWH is not lit up in color at night -- which is one of the biggest highlights of the holiday season -- I will be really disappointed. There has to be a balance of 60th anniversary and holidays. It's possible to still celebrate the 60th anniversary and celebrate the holidays too -- just because the holidays will have begun doesn't mean that the Diamond Celebration will have ended, after all!

Please, please don't let this happen! I have been dreaming about coming during the Christmas season for years and this year we have finally made plans for it to happen (airline tickets already purchased). I was excited when I realized this year would also be the 60th anniversary celebration, but if that means sacrificing all the special Christmas stuff then I'm very disappointed I picked this year to go. :(

Do you know if there is anyone "in charge" at Disneyland who we could contact with our concerns and would it make a difference?
 
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I had assumed that the facade of It's A Small World Holiday would not be lit up this year as It's A Small World is used for some of the projections for Disneyland Forever. I cannot see how this will work with all the lights up.

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Since Disneyland is having Soundsational run during the day, I do not see any reason they could not have a daytime Christmas parade... I am wondering if this is the start of moving it into a hard ticket event.

Unless there is a change in the plan for the holiday season, all information points to no Christmas Fantasy Parade. Supposedly the focus is going to remain on the 60th entertainment. Fellow DIS'er dtnrhi even reported that relatives (who perform in the parade) were told that it is not happening this year - http://www.disboards.com/threads/di...etails-for-2015.3358217/page-23#post-53583174. Also, Micechat reported no Christmas parade.

I think that Soundsational is supposed to be the daytime parade for the rest of the year.

I did contemplate the possibility that there might simply just not be a parade taping this year, but that the Christmas parade may still happen -- that's what happened in 2014. The Christmas parade was not taped, but it still happened -- and other Frozen-related stuff was taped for ABC. They could do that this year, but based on what Steve Davison and another Disney person said at the press conference back in January (when the 60th shows were announced), it's going to be "all 60th, all the time" when the holiday season rolls around.



I wish they would do a good mixture of the holiday season and the 60th anniversary. Two celebrations would be fun! It's my first time going during the holidays and while I'm excited to see the 60th anniversary decor and shows, I don't want to lose the holiday cheer.

Exactly. There needs to be a balance. The only reason why I am not panicking yet (about a sparse holiday season) is because I know what a big, big deal the holiday season is to Disneyland Resort. I mean, it is a major endeavor -- and it is a huge draw for people who absolutely love Christmas and the entire holiday season. It's very significant that 3 major holiday shows are supposedly not going to happen, and that the Winter Castle will not be as "wintry" as it usually is, due to a lack of icicle lights (if that is what happens). To remove anything else would just be going too far.

I keep thinking that Disney has some surprises in store for us, and that they will add in some interesting holiday-specific things (more than just the rumored return of the Christmas star to the top of the Matterhorn). If it were Halloween Time we were talking about, I'd think that they would probably keep it on the minimal side for one season. But the holidays are -- to quote a Cast Member I spoke to -- "very special to Disneyland Resort" and they really like to do them in a big way. I hope they haven't lost sight of that because it's the 60th anniversary!


Sherry, if that turned out to be the case, it would be one step too far. It would tick ME off....... and right now I don't even have plans of being there that time of year! :rotfl2:

I have said all along that they need to take the free holiday stuff away before they can add a hard ticket Christmas party....... but I just can't believe they would do that. I look at IASWH as DLR's version of the Osborne lights at DHS.

They have to have SOME degree of the holidays visible in the parks every day. If they take away the castle icicle lights and the Christmas parade, that would be too much. I know MK at WDW only decorates Main Street for the holidays, but they at least have the option of buying a ticket for a Christmas party if you want more. So far DLR does not, and I'm just not seeing this as the year the hard ticket party rolls out there. (I think next year is far more likely).

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:lmao: The loss of IASWH's holiday lights would be enough to tick you off from afar! I still think that the ride would get the overlay inside, but we all know that the exterior, the façade after dark, is a huge part of the whole IASWH experience!

I'm right there with you -- years ago when people were saying that the Christmas parade and the holiday fireworks could become party exclusives, I was the one saying, "No. They've been around too long to be made into party exclusives." The only way the old parade and old fireworks would suddenly be a novelty and a selling point of a hard ticket party would be to remove them -- which is what is being done this year -- and then reintroduce them in a "Back by popular demand!!" way, with probably some additions and changes. I certainly hope Disney hasn't lost its mind and is contemplating adding in IASWH to the roster of possible future party exclusives. They don't have HMH and SMGG as party exclusives, so they'd better not try that with the holidays either.

If we were talking about a scenario with the 60th anniversary stuff eclipsing, for example, the Springtime Roundup and the Egg-stravaganza, and those seasonal events being skipped, then yes... I could understand that. But the holidays are huge at DLR, and people go there to have an immersive holiday experience. Removing some of the major aspects of the season diminishes the immersion somewhat. Even though I usually skip the parade and the fireworks, I like the snow on Main Street, and I love the Winter Castle. The current nighttime Diamond Castle -- from what I have seen in photos -- is pretty, but it's not as striking and shimmery as the Winter Castle is. So I hope it gets amped up a bit by November.

Please, please don't let this happen! I have been dreaming about coming during the Christmas season for years and this year we have finally made plans for it to happen (airline tickets already purchased). I was excited when I realized this year would also be the 60th anniversary celebration, but if that means sacrificing all the special Christmas stuff then I'm very disappointed I picked this year to go. :(

Do you know if there is anyone "in charge" at Disneyland who we could contact with our concerns and would it make a difference?

I don't know of anyone off-hand, but several years ago, when there was a rumor -- it was only a rumor, and it never happened -- that the general public was going to be allowed to stay and view the Halloween party exclusive fireworks, many, many people flooded poor Guest Services with concerns and complaints. Sometimes the CMs who read the mail and answer the calls don't have any idea what is going on in the planning departments at DLR, and they are left to answer the calls from people who have heard rumors.

The only thing that we really know for sure at this point is that the 60th anniversary shows will be going strong all year, and that the main holiday shows are not supposed to happen. The IASWH thing was just something mentioned by another DIS'er as a possibility, but it's not even a rumor at this point. I think that IASWH will still happen, but how "colorful" it is on the outside after dark is the real question!

I had assumed that the facade of It's A Small World Holiday would not be lit up this year as It's A Small World is used for some of the projections for Disneyland Forever. I cannot see how this will work with all the lights up.

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There have been projections on the IASWH façade in the past, and it still had the lights. It can be done. If the fireworks were going on all night long, that would be a different story, but for the times they do happen the lights on IASWH could be turned off and then on again when the fireworks are over.
 
In another thread (asking about an end date for the Diamond Celebration), fellow DIS'er Fantaluminishes mentioned the possibility that It's a Small World Holiday's façade might not be decorated this year (in the famous colored lights that make it stand out and shine like a beacon in the night)! It's not a rumor or fact or anything. It's just a possibility of something that could happen. I'm sure that the inside of the ride would still get the overlay, but it's the outside that may be left alone.

That was something I had never really considered, as I think that the IASWH façade was at least partially decorated/colored in 2005, during the 50th anniversary. Wasn't it? (sgrap, you were there during the 50th -- do you remember colored lights on IASWH?)

If, for some reason, that happens, I think it will be too much. I know that there will be some changes during both Halloween Time and the Holidays due to the 60th, but I think there is such a thing as too many changes. No garland over Main Street, no Christmas parade, no holiday fireworks, no holiday World of Color and no Winter Castle shining in icicle lights -- that is enough of a loss. If IASWH is not lit up in color at night -- which is one of the biggest highlights of the holiday season -- I will be really disappointed. There has to be a balance of 60th anniversary and holidays. It's possible to still celebrate the 60th anniversary and celebrate the holidays too -- just because the holidays will have begun doesn't mean that the Diamond Celebration will have ended, after all!

I hope that It's a Small World Holiday will be up for our Dec visit. Love all those pretty lights! But I guess that it might be hard with all the projections. We are visiting as a whole family this time so I wanted DH and DD (18) to experience IASWH. But with all of the 60th anniversary stuff going on, I guess that we are lucky that they can also experience the 60th.
 
I hope that It's a Small World Holiday will be up for our Dec visit. Love all those pretty lights! But I guess that it might be hard with all the projections. We are visiting as a whole family this time so I wanted DH and DD (18) to experience IASWH. But with all of the 60th anniversary stuff going on, I guess that we are lucky that they can also experience the 60th.

There have been projections on IASWH before, during the holiday season, and the IASWH lights were just turned off and then turned on again. It can be done.

The real intrusion would be during the time frame when IASW goes down to get its holiday overlay. It is usually down for about 2-1/2 weeks, starting in late October. If it is due to get lights and such, then I don't know what would happen to the projections on IASW while the holiday overlay was being installed. That could be tricky. But once IASWH is up and running they could still do the projections.

Also, one thing to consider is that not everyone who goes to Disneyland cares that much about parades and fireworks. A lot of people love them, obviously -- hence, the huge crowds on Main Street and at the Hub -- but there are plenty of people who just don't care too much about nighttime shows. I know people who don't care about fireworks or parades, or they may only care about one or the other. I usually skip the parades and fireworks when I'm at Disneyland, because once I've seen them I've seen them. I will make a point of seeing the new shows, of course, but after that I will want my holiday celebration. A lot of people will go to DLR in search of a nice holiday celebration, and not really be too focused on the nighttime shows. So there has to be enough "holiday" in the parks and around DLR to give people the holiday experience they want, even without those nighttime shows.

ETA: I think that Halloween Time will be very telling. If it seems that nothing is going to interrupt the Halloween Time festivities and that the season will carry on as usual, with very few changes, that will be a good indication that the holidays may not suffer too many more blows beyond the losses we already know about. On the other hand, if Halloween Time is basically turned upside down or left as a shell of its former self, the holidays could be in trouble too!
 
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There have been projections on IASWH before, during the holiday season, and the IASWH lights were just turned off and then turned on again. It can be done.

The real intrusion would be during the time frame when IASW goes down to get its holiday overlay. It is usually down for about 2-1/2 weeks, starting in late October. If it is due to get lights and such, then I don't know what would happen to the projections on IASW while the holiday overlay was being installed. That could be tricky. But once IASWH is up and running they could still do the projections.

Also, one thing to consider is that not everyone who goes to Disneyland cares that much about parades and fireworks. A lot of people love them, obviously -- hence, the huge crowds on Main Street and at the Hub -- but there are plenty of people who just don't care too much about nighttime shows. I know people who don't care about fireworks or parades, or they may only care about one or the other. I usually skip the parades and fireworks when I'm at Disneyland, because once I've seen them I've seen them. I will make a point of seeing the new shows, of course, but after that I will want my holiday celebration. A lot of people will go to DLR in search of a nice holiday celebration, and not really be too focused on the nighttime shows. So there has to be enough "holiday" in the parks and around DLR to give people the holiday experience they want, even without those nighttime shows.

You are right, Sherry. I remember seeing projections on IASWH last year. So it can be done.

We like our holiday celebration too, we would watch the parades/fireworks one time on our visits and the rest of the time, we like to absorb the atmosphere! We had so much fun taking photos of all the Christmas decorations and noticing all the little details. :santa:
 
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