Disney Genie announcement

[mousefan73]

$50 max for me just to get on early and enjoy the rest of the day. But it is an incredible experience and well worth doing.

Interesting, wow. I hope to be on it next week to see for myself

 

[ChipNdale8887]

I agree with you, but the boarding groups are gone in something like 3 seconds. With LL, we all might have one second now to get a free boarding group. I'm not exaggerating here, either.

I am very curious what the LL pricing will be for ROTR. Earlier I said $1000, which absolutely was sarcasm, but $50-$75 doesn't seem too far of a guess.

And you know the boarding groups will probably be 30% of what they are now and the other 70% capacity will be locked behind LL's extra tier 1 cost.

 

[kylenne]

And the demand for VIP Tours shot through the roof when it was announced Rise would be included.

I remember when VIP tours were exclusively the province of crazy rich people, the way people talk so casually about them nowadays is wild to me.

But I guess that’s why I never really bought the arguments that WDW is some socialist utopia that’s being ruined by the Bobs. Disney has always been pay to play, it’s just way more blatant now and I suppose the difference is the barrier for decent entry level trips on site has gotten higher. There’s always been ways to throw money at trips to make them better and there’s always been somebody spending more to do more and have a fancier trip than me so I never especially stressed about Theme Park Equity lol

 

[Lashed34]

People on phones at 7am - CHAOS.
Rope drop every day - CHAOS.
Getting a restaurant reservation - CHAOS.

WDW - CHAOS for everyone, of all ages and god forbid the Genie doesn't crash or they lose internet coverage,

 

[mi*vida*loca]

Is Disney trying to “help” everyone get at least one ride on the headliners? Was this a big complaint from guests? That they couldn’t get a FP and standby was 3 hours for certain rides. With LL you have to pay for the FP which may reduce standby wait time. Instead of a 3 hour wait for FOP it may be an 1.5 hours and those folks who couldn’t ride before may wait in that line instead.

Disney has to think this will improve guest experience for a large portion of guests. They wouldn’t roll something out knowing it don’t work and that it’ll crash and burn.

 

[FCDub]

So much time and emotional energy spent concocting hypothetical situations instead of simply waiting to see how it all unfolds once the thing actually launches. Never change y’all.

 

[Lashed34]

Would be a bit of a boring forum if we all waited and not speculated.

 

[ucf_knight]

I don’t see how the free version of the genie will be beneficial if everyone has access to it and thousands are touring the parks in essentially the same way. Maybe at MK this will be somewhat helpful as there are a lot of attractions but at parks like HS where there are only a handful I just don’t see how this will be a benefit. Pay to play will be the new norm. Really gonna miss fast pass as I had it down to a science

 

[Lop460]

I’ve already scaled back our July 2022 vacation. Originally was supposed to be staying at Polynesian, but due to all the cutbacks and pending up-charges we decided to rent a time share and save a ton of money to get a nicer, way bigger place. We were still going to get 6 days of park tickets but now we’ve just decided to skip Disney altogether and give Universal a try instead. I already feel so much weight off my shoulders it’s unbelievable. I don’t feel like I’m going to be up-charged at every turn and I don’t have to plan it out or spend the day on my phone trying to maximize the return on the money I just dumped into Disney. I can just enjoy myself on my vacation……what a novel concept. Disney has really found my breaking point. Never thought they would, but they did.

 

[mikerobrewer]

I really wish they would have stated the start date of Genie+/LL in the announcement rather than "starting this fall".

 

[Jadyreen1282]

Would be a bit of a boring forum if we all waited and not speculated.

What else we gonna do. Covid has destroyed the world and we are just too "Disney" to see it. Anyway, it's just more fun to read the panic than experience it when it starts for Genie+.

 

[BadPinkTink]

I don’t see how the free version of the genie will be beneficial if everyone has access to it and thousands are touring the parks in essentially the same way. Maybe at MK this will be somewhat helpful as there are a lot of attractions but at parks like HS where there are only a handful I just don’t see how this will be a benefit. Pay to play will be the new norm. Really gonna miss fast pass as I had it down to a science

they will probably have some sort of machine learning tech. It will "learn" your behavior and suggest a touring plan based on your interests and what rides and attractions you do. For example, I don't watch parades or do character meet and greets, so in my touring plan, those suggestions wont appear.

 

[Delirium]

Even for early risers like you, it gives you an advantage on ONE ride. You can only get one at a time. You can't use that one until you are actually in the park. Once you are in the park, you are in the same boat as everyone else. FastPass+ not only gave you an advantage on THREE rides, it allowed you to better plan your day because you knew where you needed to be in advance.

Based on what I just explained, help me understand why this is a good thing for onsite guests.

 

[Skippyboo]

I don’t see how the free version of the genie will be beneficial if everyone has access to it and thousands are touring the parks in essentially the same way. Maybe at MK this will be somewhat helpful as there are a lot of attractions but at parks like HS where there are only a handful I just don’t see how this will be a benefit. Pay to play will be the new norm. Really gonna miss fast pass as I had it down to a science

It’s probably going to be just an annoying pop up. You are in SWGE , genie will pop up on your phone with try some blue milk with a button to mobile order or you’re in MK it pops up saying Little Mermaid ride is only 10 minutes wait when you are in adventure land hoping you go to mermaid instead of Jungle Cruise.

 

[MCC Retired]

Just when you think Disney can't get more $$$ greedy , they come up with this Genie and no more free Fast Pass.

 

[Lashed34]

Just when you think Disney can't get more $$$ greedy , they come up with this Genie and no more free Fast Pass.

Should have named it Greedy+

 

[TwoMisfits]

I wish people wouldn't say this every time Disney does something they don't like. (And you're allowed to not like this.)


Universal's Express Pass is a much more expensive version of what people are mostly complaining about here.

It's not like Universal's immune from this kind of behavior. For example, if you buy a Universal AP, you still have to pay for parking on the first visit (unless you go after 6pm).

(And I'll gently nudge that the two most recent ride additions at USP are two of the worst theme park rides of the last thirty years.)

Hagrid's and Velocicoaster are 2 of the best ever done...yeah, USP puts in new stuff really often...

 

[tink fan]

I just rewatched the video because I was confused about the on site perk. From what I understand
—both on and off site guests who purchases Genie+ can make their first selection at 7 am
—the individual paid lightning lane selections do not require genie+
—on site guests can purchase the two paid individual lightning lane selections at 7 am. Offsite guests need to wait until park opening.
—beginning this fall on-site guests will be able to enter the parks 1/2 hour before off site, giving them the rope drop advantage

As an aside I would absolutely pay for the individual ROTC selection at 7 am even before trying to get a boarding pass.

 

[yorkieteacher]

It now makes sense why early entry is only 30 minutes for on-site guests. That way you can only get in one good ride before you have to pay up!

 

[PFopma]

I really wish they would have stated the start date of Genie+/LL in the announcement rather than "starting this fall".

Yup - Already made my stressful 50th Anniversary week trip more stressful wondering when this will drop. We already have plans made and a rough itinerary. Hopefully Disney will have the sense to not start this until well into the Fall.