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OK. I put 0 stock in this article, since I don't think Iger said what the article thinks he said. But... according to this bit of what I presume is bad journalism, both SW:GE lands will open in June.

https://www.recode.net/2019/1/7/181...facebook-nyt-zuckerberg-hospital-amazon-alexa

Yes. I'm posting this, not because I think it's true, but because I think it's interesting and to air the laundry with my skepticism before people start getting fired up.
 
jknezek said:
OK. I put 0 stock in this article, since I don't think Iger said what the article thinks he said. But... according to this bit of what I presume is bad journalism, both SW:GE lands will open in June.

https://www.recode.net/2019/1/7/181...facebook-nyt-zuckerberg-hospital-amazon-alexa

Yes. I'm posting this, not because I think it's true, but because I think it's interesting and to air the laundry with my skepticism before people start getting fired up.
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A lack of knowledge about the source material shines through more when "outside" media sites try to cover Disney more than any other industry, it seems. Every article like this legitimizes those types of sources and adds legitimacy to the blogs that we all follow on a daily basis
 
OhioStateBuckeye said:
I'd argue that beauty and the beast is catered more to adults since that movie came out when we were kids. I always considered Ratatouille to be more adult oriented.

Can't argue toy story land though, that ones for the kids.

I still feel that more adult things are being added than kids things, but I will admit I haven't sat down and done a comparison.
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I do get what you are saying but I feel maybe they are doing some “catching up” in adding things for adults.

2 of the last 3 major additions (NFL and TSL) were family or kid additions. Pandora would be the one that’s probably more adult. Star Wars will certainly be more adult but also tons of kids love it too.
 
jknezek said:
OK. I put 0 stock in this article, since I don't think Iger said what the article thinks he said. But... according to this bit of what I presume is bad journalism, both SW:GE lands will open in June.

https://www.recode.net/2019/1/7/181...facebook-nyt-zuckerberg-hospital-amazon-alexa

Yes. I'm posting this, not because I think it's true, but because I think it's interesting and to air the laundry with my skepticism before people start getting fired up.
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That's just crazy how they report it as it specifically covers what Iger said, which was around Disneyland: "Disney CEO Bob Iger spilled the beans on a June grand opening for Star Wars: Galaxy’s Edge at Disneyland"

But then is gets into the opening both of them simultaneously based in "Insiders" ..... I can't think of a single "insider" report that even hinted at the two opening simultaneously
"Along with hints about other ride and attraction info, Theme Park Insider pegged June 21-23 as the date that the 14-acre Galaxy’s Edge will open simultaneously in Disneyland in Anaheim, Calif. and Hollywood Studios near Orlando, Fla."
 
TheMaxRebo said:
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That's just crazy how they report it as it specifically covers what Iger said, which was around Disneyland: "Disney CEO Bob Iger spilled the beans on a June grand opening for Star Wars: Galaxy’s Edge at Disneyland"

But then is gets into the opening both of them simultaneously based in "Insiders" ..... I can't think of a single "insider" report that even hinted at the two opening simultaneously
"Along with hints about other ride and attraction info, Theme Park Insider pegged June 21-23 as the date that the 14-acre Galaxy’s Edge will open simultaneously in Disneyland in Anaheim, Calif. and Hollywood Studios near Orlando, Fla."
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Theme Park Insider is not a good source at all.
 
rteetz said:
I do get what you are saying but I feel maybe they are doing some “catching up” in adding things for adults.

2 of the last 3 major additions (NFL and TSL) were family or kid additions. Pandora would be the one that’s probably more adult. Star Wars will certainly be more adult but also tons of kids love it too.
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I think it is just that a lot of the new things (Star Wars, etc) and then a lot of the evening extra hours or the increase of all the festivals, etc. - combined with the drastic increase in costs makes it seem like they are targeting non-families more. Now, obviously it's Disney, the number one market for the Brand will be families. But with the big increase in prices it is that much harder to take a family of 5 than it is a couple to go - so I think if I am a family saying, well, new stuff not aimed at us, crowds are going to be insane, and these price increases? Is this really where we want to spend our vacation dollars that we will have to make even more sacrifices to afford?
 
When I personally witness the demographic attending each of the WDW parks, I think there are plenty of "older" adults that are thrilled with "younger" adult attractions. The draw of an attraction to make someone feel younger is a legitimate pull in my opinion. Certainly there are attractions that are aimed at healthy bodied thrill-seekers, but I believe WDW is creating a good blend across the board.
 
rteetz said:
It’s hard to build a coaster and not have a height restriction though.
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right, but the 2nd attraction could have been something without a height restriction - I don't have an issue with one having a height restriction, just a bit tough to take when both new ones do

(or heck, add a third or a fourth that don't have height restrictions or a play area or something for the youngest/smallest to do ... and not just the youngest: I am sure there are a lot of grandparents or just people that don't do roller coasters or spinny rides that won't do either new attraction)
 
hertamaniac said:
When I personally witness the demographic attending each of the WDW parks, I think there are plenty of "older" adults that are thrilled with "younger" adult attractions. The draw of an attraction to make someone feel younger is a legitimate pull in my opinion. Certainly there are attractions that are aimed at healthy bodied thrill-seekers, but I believe WDW is creating a good blend across the board.
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and to @rteetz's point they had some catch up to do ... I mean, always have (I think until the Matterhorn was built there wasn't a ride at Disneyland that had a height restriction), and I think maybe while the big attractions that are coming (Tron, Guardians, both Star Wars) aren't "family attractions" there are other things from Ratatoulie and Mickey and Minnie's Runaway Railway* which are both pretty big attractions to even things like the Incredibles Pixar Place addition this year and Maters Race Academy and maybe a new attraction in the UK, etc.

Just the "big" things overshadow a lot

* have we agreed on something shorter to use for "Mickey and Minnie's Runaway Railway" yet? If I put MMRR will people know what it is?
 
rteetz said:
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Disneyland Update – Santa Priced Out of Disneyland
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I like that they included the last two years of increases, so you can really see the impact. If you look at the Disney Signature (which excludes Christmas and New Years and required extra $100 for Maxpass) - that went up $300 in the last two years, and that is $400 if we adding Max Pass, which is becoming pretty important to have

so including Maxpass, that went from $849 to $1,249 in two years - a 47% increase in two years!!!
 
TheMaxRebo said:
I like that they included the last two years of increases, so you can really see the impact. If you look at the Disney Signature (which excludes Christmas and New Years and required extra $100 for Maxpass) - that went up $300 in the last two years, and that is $400 if we adding Max Pass, which is becoming pretty important to have

so including Maxpass, that went from $849 to $1,249 in two years - a 47% increase in two years!!!
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The AP increases at DL have been huge. They are really trying to get the number of APs down a bit to help with crowds.
 
Certainly Disney believes in pricing things to see what the market will bare. Star Wars is a major investment in that park, and it will do nothing to reduce crowding there. Might as well hike the prices when you know you have a market that is going to overwhelm the property. They can double there money and scare away some crowds for later. It makes perfect business sense, but is unfortunate for many people.
 
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