My daughter doesn't think she needs a Carbon Monoxide Detector

JanetRose

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since she lives in an apartment; I just researched it and they are recommended whether you live in an apartment or house. One site even suggested people taking one when they go on vacation!

I'm buying my daughter one tomorrow :)
 
We don't "need" one, but DH just bought me one for Christmas (I know. weird gift but we needed it). Our house has no garage, and the cars park nowhere near the house. There is nothing to emit carbon monoxide in or around our house, but we now have one just in case!
 
I've had one for years - long before they were 'in' to have. My DH never understood why, even though we do have an oil furnace in the cellar and our garage is attached to our house(with a breezeway in between). I just figured it was one more way of keeping my family safe from something we couldn't smell/see.
 
We don't "need" one, but DH just bought me one for Christmas (I know. weird gift but we needed it). Our house has no garage, and the cars park nowhere near the house. There is nothing to emit carbon monoxide in or around our house, but we now have one just in case!

Can't you get carbon monoxide poisoning from other things and not just cars? I really don't know but have heard of them happening in houses and apartments not near garages.

We need to get one as well. Thanks for the reminder.
 
Ah, from Wikipedia (quoted):

Carbon monoxide poisoning occurs after enough inhalation of carbon monoxide (CO). Carbon monoxide is a toxic gas, but, being colorless, odorless, tasteless, and initially non-irritating, it is very difficult for people to detect. Carbon monoxide is a product of incomplete combustion of organic matter due to insufficient oxygen supply to enable complete oxidation to carbon dioxide (CO2). It is often produced in domestic or industrial settings by older motor vehicles and other gasoline-powered tools, heaters, and cooking equipment. Exposures at 100 ppm or greater can be dangerous to human health.[1]


So, I suppose if your home has no gas-powered anything or heaters, then you don't need one? We live in an apartment and even though our heater is electric, I have no way of knowing what the other freaks sharing our roof do in their own homes.

By gas, do they mean all types of gas and/or does that include natural gas-powered items?
 
Can't you get carbon monoxide poisoning from other things and not just cars? I really don't know but have heard of them happening in houses and apartments not near garages.

We need to get one as well. Thanks for the reminder.

It can happen from gas water heaters or furnances, and I think any gas appliance. I have 2, one at the top of each staircase.
 
We have one and did it ever come in handy a few years ago! The creosote (sp?) in our chimney collapsed one winter in the middle of the night so all the smoke came pouring in the house instead of up the chimney. For some reason our smoke detector never went off even though the whole main floor of our house was full of smoke. Our carbon monoxide detector started emitting warning beeps which woke me up. Everyone including our poor guinea pig who lived on the main floor was fine but we had to open up every window and door in the house in the middle of a -30 (celsius) cold snap at 4am and pretty much everything we owned had a smoky odor for a few weeks. I don't want to imagine what could have happened if it wasn't for the carbon monoxide detector going off though especially since out of a family of four, I was the only one woken up by the beeping.
 
They are required in homes and apartments in California. As I recall they are required in all living units in any building with gas furnaces, stoves, water heaters, attached garages, or wood heating appliances (wood stove, pellet stove, fireplace).
We're all electric here, but we have a fire place and an attached garage.
It was $11 at Walmart, cheap safety insurance in my book.
 
:eek: CO poisoning is one of those things that I'm just terrified of.

We've got 2 or 3 detectors for our one-story 1100 sq ft house. In our old house (smaller but 2 floors) my dad rigged them and the smoke detectors up so that if one went off, they all went off.
 
You are a good mom.

I have done the same with my kid's apts.

They are required here in MN after a terrible tragedy many years ago.


herc
 
The town where I was going to college had a family of seven die when a car was accidentally left running in a garage. Our city made it mandatory after that for all rental establishments to provide detectors. If she has a gas furnace or water heater or a fire place, those could also be sources.

Here is an article about the incident in our city:

http://www.connecttristates.com/news/story.aspx?id=30189

This absolutely devastated our city, and it could just as easily have happened from a faulty water heater.
 
Anything that has combustion will produce carbon monoxide. That includes gasoline or diesel motors, appliances that run on natural gas, propane, and fuel oil, fireplaces, woodburning, pellet and coal burning stoves, kerosene heaters, candles, and even smoking. People and animals exhale carbon monoxide. Granted, the last few are a minimal threat, but when houses are closed up tight for extended periods in cold weather, they have to be considered. My utility compay control center was primarily electric, but we also dispatched for the gas department, which meant I had to file reports to the Public Service Commissions for carbon monoxide situations, regardless of the cause. Over the years I can recall at least one due to a fireplace and one where a closed uo for cold weather house had several heavy smokers. The serviceman was required to test the entire premise in every case and the heavy smoking was, indeed, determined to be the only source of carbon monoxide. The residents had symtoms, but they weren't serious... yet. I know we like to be efficient and keep our houses draft-free when it's cold out, but a little fresh air is a good thing.

Unless your house is entirely electric and free of other sources, do have a CO detector. When it goes off, leave immediately and call for help.
 
We didn't have on growing up because our house was entirely electric. DH and I didn't have one in our apartment because it was all electric, as well.

We do have one in our house because our furnace and water heater are gas.
 
A few years ago when Seattle had an extended snow storm/power outage of several days, a family near us had a gas grill inside to cook and heat. The whole family died, adults and teenagers if I remember correctly. I would worry about something similar in an apartment. If another unit was doing something like this, couldn't it have consequences for their neighbors?
 
Anything that has combustion will produce carbon monoxide. That includes gasoline or diesel motors, appliances that run on natural gas, propane, and fuel oil, fireplaces, woodburning, pellet and coal burning stoves, kerosene heaters, candles, and even smoking. People and animals exhale carbon monoxide. Granted, the last few are a minimal threat, but when houses are closed up tight for extended periods in cold weather, they have to be considered. My utility compay control center was primarily electric, but we also dispatched for the gas department, which meant I had to file reports to the Public Service Commissions for carbon monoxide situations, regardless of the cause. Over the years I can recall at least one due to a fireplace and one where a closed uo for cold weather house had several heavy smokers. The serviceman was required to test the entire premise in every case and the heavy smoking was, indeed, determined to be the only source of carbon monoxide. The residents had symtoms, but they weren't serious... yet. I know we like to be efficient and keep our houses draft-free when it's cold out, but a little fresh air is a good thing.

Unless your house is entirely electric and free of other sources, do have a CO detector. When it goes off, leave immediately and call for help.


People and animals exhale carbon DIoxide...completely different.
 
George said:
People and animals exhale carbon monoxide.
Minor correction here: people (and so, probably animals - it's been too many years since high school biology :)) exhale carbon dioxide.

This http://www.health.state.mn.us/divs/eh/indoorair/co/index.html looks like a good source for information about carbon monoxide. The section on sources states "In general, CO is produced when any material burns. More is produced when there isn’t enough oxygen for efficient burning. Common sources of CO in homes include fuel-burning devices such as: furnaces, gas or kerosene space heaters, boilers, gas cooking stoves, water heaters, clothes dryers, fireplaces, charcoal grills, wood stoves, lawn mowers, power generators, camp stoves, motor vehicles and some power tools with internal combustion engines. Smoking is another common source of CO that can negatively impact indoor air quality."

All we have in our apartments from that list is gas stoves/ovens; management installed carbon monoxide detectors years ago.
 
It's the law here in NYC that all apartments have to have a carbon monoxide detector. My landlord hounded me for weeks as he had to put one in when I was finally home when he'd be around.

I still keep the windows open a crack just in case, no matter how cold it gets here.
 
Worth repeating

Anything that has combustion will produce carbon monoxide. That includes gasoline or diesel motors, appliances that run on natural gas, propane, and fuel oil, fireplaces, woodburning, pellet and coal burning stoves, kerosene heaters, candles, and even smoking


And what does carbon monoxide smell like?


Nothing.....IT IS ODERESS!!!!!


It will put you to sleep forever and you will not know it happened.
 
Interesting, I'd never thought about this myself as we don't use gas but when i lived in CA it was something that worried me every now and then.

Walt Disney's Mother died of this as well, in a home he and Roy bought for their parents less than à month after they moved in. That must have caused some awful guilt. Best to have detector and be safe I think.
 
I work in a Commercial Building Science department here in NC.

You need a CO detector either of these are true about the building you call home:

1. There is an attached garage.
2. There are combustion appliances fueled by oil, propane, natural gas, or alcohol.
 

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